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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    I could buy that if we also agreed to raise taxes on the rich.
    I'd agree to raise taxes on everyone. No one is exempt. We all pay "our fair share".

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    being older and more experienced in the ways of the world, I have seen thousands who say the same things you do. Those who plan on being winners don't spend a lot of time advocating rules or obstacles that will punish them when they become winners. Those who plan on never being successful tend to spend more time justifying attacks on the successful to slake their own feelings of inadequacy and lack of ambition
    Dude, I don't let people like you bring me down TurtleDude. In fact, I could care less about what you think of me because I know that I am a straight A student who always does everything they are supposed to and never misses class and goes to either class/work whether I am sick or not. My political beliefs have nothing to do with the person I am. So please, I would appreciate it if you would stop slandering my name.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
    -Jryan

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    I'd agree to raise taxes on everyone. No one is exempt. We all pay "our fair share".
    Right, I would even buy into everyone pays the 30%...

    Problem solved, where is the red phone to tell someone important?
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
    -Jryan

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Because the middle class already pay higher taxes than the rich do. They are already doing their part.
    That is beyond stupid

    the rich pay a higher rate on any progressive tax on like income. So stop the lying. The rich pay far more actual tax dollars than the middle class. The TOP FIVE PERCENT PAY MORE FEDERAL INCOME TAX DOLLARS than the rest of country combined

    You should be careful when you spew crap like that and tell people they need to think more

    what you have confused is that fact that some people who have Upper middle class rates of earned income and who also pay right at the very top of the FICA cutoff might have higher effective total federal "tax" rates over some billionaires who only have UNEARNED income (ie a DIFFERENT TYPE OF INCOME) in the form of capital gains.

    finding someone who has a higher EFFECTIVE RATE than the 15% effective rate most billionaires with only investment income pay who is still in the middle class is rather tough.

    and rates are not the same as actual tax dollars.

    while Romney only pays an EFFECTIVE RATE that is higher than 97% of America his actual tax payments put him in the top .05 percent

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Right, I would even buy into everyone pays the 30%...

    Problem solved, where is the red phone to tell someone important?
    So... not 90 percent anymore?


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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    So... not 90 percent anymore?
    Nope, you have convinced me otherwise Josie, good job!!! Although I will add that their should still be a level at which no one should pay taxes. (IE 30% of 15k leaves you with jack **** lol)
    Last edited by Jryan; 04-14-12 at 03:48 PM.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
    -Jryan

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    I'd agree to raise taxes on everyone. No one is exempt. We all pay "our fair share".
    we should have a system where every tax level pays the same amount of the income tax as their share of the income meaning the top one percent would pay 22% of the income tax even though that means they would be paying 22X what they most likely use while the bottom 50% would pay say 12% or so of the income tax since they earn 12% or so of the income.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    easy there, pardner, I get social security.....
    Sorry Bill, you'll be the exception, when I'm elected.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Whether you arrive at your reasoning of "fair" through regulation or taxes, your answer is government and government is easy as hell to manipulate if you have means. Your mention of fairness implies government intervention. Correct me if Im missing something.
    Govt intervention is not always bad....we have public schools due to govt intervention....
    If we want unbridled competition for jobs, just destroy public schools first.
    Without govt intervention, there would also be more Bernie Madoffs operating with impunity.
    It would be nice if ethics meant what it used to mean, especially on Wall Street and in Congress.
    Can we trust Govt foxes to gaurd the business chicken coop? Get the meat eaters out of congress first, I want vegetarians guarding the chicken coop.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Nope, you have convinced me otherwise Josie, good job!!!
    That was quite a leap. Maybe you should sit and think about what you really believe before you state it and then you won't have to keep backtracking.


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