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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    I'm majoring in either Meteorology or Pure Mathematics.

    I think it is important to remain anonymous though sometimes because a lot of people here would ostracize you for being young. Although I'm more than happy to tell people my age and other things in a PM because I know that if they blurted it out on the internet they would look bad, well I should add only certain people .

    (I've had people claim that wisdom is knowledge)

    Yeah, people agree with me. (I only know this because I've pulled much of my argument from books I've read on the subject of free will and other political books)
    either will pay well.....
    wisdom is productive use of knowledge combined with good judgement.
    don't take this the wrong way, but age helps with wisdom. Not all old people are wise, but certainly very few young people are wise...
    experience is a very efficient teacher...
    We only have so much free will available to us individually. Society allows it to a point, then starts restricting it based on the needs of society. I like to say that Free Will doesn't work very well where we don't have to suffer the consequences of it....
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Taking all of their money is one thing, taking a portion of their income is quite the opposite.
    And what would that do for the economy? If total their wealth can't pay the interest payment on money the US has borrowed, how is that going to help the millions who aren't paying taxes?

    I just heard when the so called Bush Tax Cuts vanish, the average taxpayer's bill is going to go up over $3K a year. How do think those folks are going to react to the "share your money with other folks" sales pitch the President is giving? I'd say not well.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Right, us liberals (Whatever I am), tend to think that they aren't being taxed enough.
    Us taxpayers think you are getting more than you've worked for.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Giving hand outs to people who need it is a good thing. I don't see how someone can approach this moral question and end with an answer of no, we shouldn't help those in need.

    If this is your take on life and you believe that taxes should be raised on the workers, then I'm sure you've gone above and beyond and written an extra check for a couple thousand dollars on top of what you had to pay, yes?

    So tell u all how much more you pay into the system because you feel this is necessary, okay?

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

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    And what would that do for the economy? If total their wealth can't pay the interest payment on money the US has borrowed, how is that going to help the millions who aren't paying taxes?

    I just heard when the so called Bush Tax Cuts vanish, the average taxpayer's bill is going to go up over $3K a year. How do think those folks are going to react to the "share your money with other folks" sales pitch the President is giving? I'd say not well.
    what needs to be shared is a better job market....people who are gainfully employed are less likely to be obsessing about the rich..
    But, I have always maintained that our economy works better if we have 1,000 millionaires instead of 1 billionaire.
    The "playing field" could be made more level...
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    either will pay well.....
    wisdom is productive use of knowledge combined with good judgement.
    don't take this the wrong way, but age helps with wisdom. Not all old people are wise, but certainly very few young people are wise...
    experience is a very efficient teacher...
    We only have so much free will available to us individually. Society allows it to a point, then starts restricting it based on the needs of society. I like to say that Free Will doesn't work very well where we don't have to suffer the consequences of it....
    I can agree with that, like I put it to someone here. I would consider Goshin to be a wise person because when he posts he draws from a personal experience. I think the ability to do that is a form of wisdom, IE the ability to draw from experience and not from knowledge. Being wise makes arguments more palpable. I've recently changed my opinion on free will, I thought that their was no free will and that we were basiccly a machine with which our inputs are genes, upbringing, schooling, teachers, peers, etc etc. Now I think it is more of a in the moment you don't choose, your subconscious chooses (the upbringing part, non-free will). For instance, when you are driving your car down the road you are not consciously thinking about your speed, gas or brakes, steering, etc etc; rather, your conscious thought is dedicated to things you have done or are going to do, but you do have free will when presented with the conscious choice of whether you want to go to your mom's house for dinner or to your friend's house for dinner. Although, the non free willers would point out that all of your options may not be presented to you because your subconscious has filtered those options out. IE you can go to your mom's/friend's, but you could also go into a random person's house and have dinner.

    Anyways, sorry got away with myself there. My choice on the two majors has come down to which one I think I will enjoy more. I like to think of the job choice as which one would I like to have as a hobby? Which one would I like to do on my spare time? If I were to bring my work home, which one would that be from?
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Let me clarify exactly UtahBill so that we can argue each individually if necessary. I think everyone should have a car, access to entertainment of some sort, access to a roof over their head, access to food, access to water, and access to a healthy lifestyle.
    Well I've finally found the stereotypical liberal. Hello.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    And what would that do for the economy? If total their wealth can't pay the interest payment on money the US has borrowed, how is that going to help the millions who aren't paying taxes?

    I just heard when the so called Bush Tax Cuts vanish, the average taxpayer's bill is going to go up over $3K a year. How do think those folks are going to react to the "share your money with other folks" sales pitch the President is giving? I'd say not well.
    If you are referring to the middle class having a higher tax, the liberals, at least to my knowledge, have always been for lower taxes on middle class. I could be wrong though.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
    -Jryan

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Perhaps the question for many on this site who feel Romney is overly rich. How rich is to rich? Should the Kennedy's, Rockafeller's, Roosevelt's as an example be considered too rich to govern?
    To be rich and run for President is acceptable. To be rich, run for President, and be utterly clueless as to how to relate to average people is not.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    Us taxpayers think you are getting more than you've worked for.
    Oh? So you think I got more than I am worth by going to school and I mean grade school? (That is the only thing I have benefited from besides driving a school bus as a job)
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
    -Jryan

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