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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    That's why most people who don't own a car either walk, bike, or take public transportation. I don't recognize the "right" to own a free vehicle provided by the state. If you're too poor to buy a vehicle, how are you going to by motor and engine oil? Gasoline? Is the taxpayer supposed to subsidize that as well?

    Many people who have jobs don't NEED to drive to work to get to work.
    StillBallin75, I merely said that transportation has to be offered in some form to people who can't afford to buy a car. I'm okay with public transportation as an option.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    I didn't say you were lying, Jryan. Reread it.


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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    then move to where the jobs are.....
    Right, so someone who has no job, no car, and no income is supposed to move somewhere else how exactly?
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    StillBallin75, I merely said that transportation has to be offered in some form to people who can't afford to buy a car. I'm okay with public transportation as an option.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    First of all, this is my OP:



    So leaving out that you totally changed (I have since changed this a little), right to a roof over their head to 'RIGHT' to a house, I'll say that a roof over your head is a need. People have to be able to be shielded from the elements. While you can live outdoors, it is a miserable existence and we left that 10000 years ago.

    Secondly, how do you suggest (again I have altered it slightly) people get to work, find a job, or go get food without a mode of transportation?



    Not setting a limit of when I would propose someone be taxed at these levels but 10% of 20 million is still 2 million. If you can't live off a salary of 2 million dollars a year, and I mean live lavishly, then you are not a millionaire.
    How do you think people have been getting along in this country since its inception? Its called American ingenuity. If I had ever thought about life as being one obstacle after another as you apparently do, and that the government should take care of for me rather than taking care of myself, I would have never graduated from high school, college, or either graduate program I ever enrolled in.


    And I come from a middle class family where my dad worked and my mom took care of my sister, my brother, and me. I guess according to some liberals my mom never worked a day in her life either.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    How do you think people have been getting along in this country since its inception? Its called American ingenuity. If I had ever thought about life as being one obstacle after another as you apparently do, and that the government should take care of for me rather than taking care of myself, I would have never graduated from high school, college, or either graduate program I ever enrolled in.

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    And amazingly I accomplish these things believing in the things I do.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    I could only name one. One of my neighbors runs a business where he does house repair work.



    This is the last time I will address this Josie. Please stop bringing up my age. I'm not going to tell you it. If I "politically lie" please let me know so I can change my political opinion. BTW, you should really look up the definition of lying before you throw the term around. For someone to lie, they must intentionally know that they are deceiving the other person and make no effort to retract their statement when they find out they are wrong.
    ask your nieghbor for a job....join the military....move out of the sticks.....
    you don't have to give your age, doing so, not doing so, either way you sound very immature...
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    StillBallin75, I merely said that transportation has to be offered in some form to people who can't afford to buy a car. I'm okay with public transportation as an option.
    No J, THIS is what you said.

    Yes, well unless the person is unable to drive a car, people should have these things, and you mentioned the car so I'll start there. People, in this day and age, need a car to get to and from work, so therefore it has become a basic need.
    You essentially argued that people are ENTITLED to a personal vehicle.

    And I don't mean to be rude buddy, but the whole "how are they going to get to the store" is a complete red herring. If you live in a remote community where cars and stores aren't around, chances are your community is finding a way to provide for itself, or else you wouldn't be living there in the first place. People don't just live in remote areas away from stores and jobs for no reason.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    ask your nieghbor for a job....join the military....move out of the sticks.....
    you don't have to give your age, doing so, not doing so, either way you sound very immature...
    This is what I find hilarious. You can't win a debate so you turn to personal attacks.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Not really - all of her kids are grown: why isn't she employed now? Is it considered a sin in their eyes to find employment when you're a woman?

    I think it actually brings up some significant questions - our government is suppose to foster equality and freedom and further the belief that women have a right to work and should find employment as it suits their needs in their life. Does Romney believe that women have a right to work or are we going to see hints of male-favoritism as we did during the Great Depression if the government tries to step in to help with employment issues and exludes women in the process if he's in office?

    I don't think it's wrong to be a stay at home mom: I am one.

    But at some point you stop being a stay at home mom - their youngets child was born in 1981, making him one year younger than me. . . she is no longer a stay at home mom for her children - that is no longer her description in life and does not account for their actual beliefs at present.

    What does she do - if anything - with all these years she's had? Where does he fall in his beliefs? If we bring the President's career choices and his wife's career choices into question (yes - I was here last election: I remmeber all of that quite clearly and it wasn't all a negative issue) then why can't we question this and what it reflects on them as people of this country.

    I have a serious problem with a grown capable woman who does not find employment - ever. My husband's mother is one and she's lowly in my view: living freely and welloff on the hard work of others and has done nothing to earn anything for herself. It is a questionable existance: it's wealthy laziness.
    Wow, how much Corporate America must like you! You are literally claiming the primary purpose of life and priority ethical duty is to labor for others. In your opinion, Walt Whitman = Satan.

    Obviously you fully despise retired seniors who would be still capable of laboring for others. You put zero value on maintaining a house & home - and despise women who do so. In your logic, people who for handicapped and can not LABOR at a job are total societal drains. Maybe you think they should be put out of their misery.

    I absolutely 100% disagree with you. I believe not no one has a moral obligation to labor as an employee for others. No one. I do not agree with your view that the only meritorious labor a person can do is as a laborer/employee.

    If you have anything other than your we-all-are-born-slaves theory, that Romney in any way opposes the right of women to work? I bet you have exactly nothing to back that up.

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