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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    do it tomorrow, and in 5 years most of the wealth will be right back where it was.....

    stupidity should not be subsidized..
    So you are pro eugenic?
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    No one is placing fault on things that are out of our control.
    I'm arguing that everything is out of our control .

    Anyways, I'm off for the day.

    I'll stick around until Utah comes back actually because I can't accuse someone of being pro eugenics and then leaving lol.
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    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    My daughter runs a web site that keeps her busy, has 4 kids ages 5 to 15, a husband who also runs a small business, etc. and does use a hired house cleaner on occasion, but mostly she makes the kids help out. I bet Ann Romney put her kids to work.....
    I'll bet she did too. Chores teach responsibility. My parents had a full-time maid, but she wasn't allowed to touch our rooms or bathroom or do our laundry. And I began working (beyond babysitting) at 14. We didn't have allowances either.

    I just don't understand trying to categorize Ann Romney (or any woman or man) by wealth. So many assumptions being made, and reducing an individual human being, a mother, to one facet of her life is just sad.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    I'm arguing that everything is out of our control .

    Anyways, I'm off for the day.
    No, not everything is out of our control. You choose to do drugs, be a drunk, spend yourself into oblivion, choose the wrong spouse, etc. Bad choices are just that - choices. Who your family is or your genetic makeup isn't your choice, but you can sure choose to rise above it.


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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    I agree, and I didn't mean to paint the picture that way, but I was trying to prove a point that people who start out in a bad position are likely to make bad decisions later in life, IE your two brothers.
    The system I grew up in was much the same as it is now, if you want to have a better life, work at it.
    Not once in High School did the school counselors or any of the teachers call me in and ask why my grades were slipping. They never asked why my parents had NO contact with the school. I felt nobody cared. I was right. So I made a plan, and worked at it.
    It would probably help if the schools had more programs that expose kids to reality, starting at age 12, and I don't mean the stupid reality shows on TV....
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Wealth redistribution

    To give those who don't have the fair shot, a fairer shot. To say that life sucks is an understatement. To say that someone people have a terrible life and are a victim of their childhood is a correct statement, which would mean we should help these people out.
    You want to give money to people you think can't make it anyways due to their lack of IQ?
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Partially right, everyone pays taxes on goods that they buy that is why most states don't raise this because it is in a sense a tax raise on the poor. I think the problem here though is that we don't have the exact right amount of people who should be subsidized. That is a very hard line to find I would think.

    It has to be fixed. How long do you think the country can stand if those paying taxes, fed & state, can carrying the burden for those not paying taxes?

    When it becomes the reverse 48% paying and 52% taking it is unsustainable. You could today take everthing from Romeny, Gates, Buffett, Kenndys, Trumps, et al, and it wouldn't even pay the interest on the country's debt for a week.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    No, not everything is out of our control. You choose to do drugs, be a drunk, spend yourself into oblivion, choose the wrong spouse, etc. Bad choices are just that - choices. Who your family is or your genetic makeup isn't your choice, but you can sure choose to rise above it.
    So someone that has never tried alcohol before, not knowing how they will react to it, then becomes an alcoholic and the original choice was to become one? How bout a drug addict who decides to try pot for the first time and becomes addicted to that. Was their original intent to be addicted to it? No... Are they in control of their behavior henceforth? No, they are high... How about someone who chooses a wrong spouse? They may not of known all the facts about this person they were being married to. You will probably argue that they then shouldn't of gotten married to them. Relationships change though...

    You can "choose" to rise above bad genes? WHAT!?! So someone who is mentally ill, cannot function as a person need only will themselves to work hard? My Oh My, you have just solved the worlds problems here.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    It has to be fixed. How long do you think the country can stand if those paying taxes, fed & state, can carrying the burden for those not paying taxes?

    When it becomes the reverse 48% paying and 52% taking it is unsustainable. You could today take everthing from Romeny, Gates, Buffett, Kenndys, Trumps, et al, and it wouldn't even pay the interest on the country's debt for a week.
    Taking all of their money is one thing, taking a portion of their income is quite the opposite.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Taking all of their money is one thing, taking a portion of their income is quite the opposite.
    We already do that... taxes.


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