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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    No, I am merely saying that because of the system that we have, only a few can be rich and live the good life; therefore, this is why I used the word luck. You don't will yourself into a conducive environment for learning, you don't will yourself to have good parents, you don't will yourself not to have clubbed feet, you don't will yourself to have a high IQ, therefore you cannot will yourself to be rich; furthermore, you then cannot expect the other hard working Americans to feel like they have been taken advantage of by a system in which they have no control over; therefore, they demand that these lucky people give back to a society that they have reaped such a huge benefit from. In a sense, humility.
    some of us are disadvantaged, 2 of my siblings had learning disabilities...
    But they were also either dishonest on the job, or lazy and would not look for work, etc. They took their bad luck and made it worse.
    You don't have to be rich to live the good life, as much as you have to use good judgement. My wife and I never earned the really big bucks until the last few working years, but we are living well now. There is no right to happiness, just the pursuit of it. If you don't pursue it, whose fault is it? If money is your prime determinant for happiness, then your life is shallow to start with.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    So why label yourself with something you mostly disagree with?
    Meh, maybe I'll change it to Other... I just don't see myself as a liberal or moderate.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    some of us are disadvantaged, 2 of my siblings had learning disabilities...
    But they were also either dishonest on the job, or lazy and would not look for work, etc. They took their bad luck and made it worse.
    You don't have to be rich to live the good life, as much as you have to use good judgement. My wife and I never earned the really big bucks until the last few working years, but we are living well now. There is no right to happiness, just the pursuit of it. If you don't pursue it, whose fault is it? If money is your prime determinant for happiness, then your life is shallow to start with.
    I agree, and I didn't mean to paint the picture that way, but I was trying to prove a point that people who start out in a bad position are likely to make bad decisions later in life, IE your two brothers.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
    -Jryan

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    No Josie, I'm saying that you don't, in reality, get the choice to have the good life. You are born into a circumstance with backgrounds in which you have no control over. Someone who is born into a rich family with caring and loving parents is statistically more likely to have a higher paying job than someone who is born into a family that only provides a life long emergency for that child.
    we don't have to stay in the environment we are born into....one of the smartest things I ever did was move far away from my family....
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    we don't have to stay in the environment we are born into....one of the smartest things I ever did was move far away from my family....
    lol right, but the reason you moved away wasn't because you knew it would be conducive to your survival. It was probably just because you were annoyed with your family. Luck was on your side .
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    I agree, and I didn't mean to paint the picture that way, but I was trying to prove a point that people who start out in a bad position are likely to make bad decisions later in life, IE your two brothers.
    That's their own fault.


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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Wealth redistribution

    To give those who don't have the fair shot, a fairer shot. To say that life sucks is an understatement. To say that someone people have a terrible life and are a victim of their childhood is a correct statement, which would mean we should help these people out.
    do it tomorrow, and in 5 years most of the wealth will be right back where it was.....

    stupidity should not be subsidized..
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    we don't have to stay in the environment we are born into....one of the smartest things I ever did was move far away from my family....
    One of the smartest things I did was stop listening to my sister.


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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    That's their own fault.
    lol, you have completely missed my point then. Again, how is it your "fault" that you have the IQ that you do? How is it your "fault" that you went to elementary school (assuming you did)? How is it your "fault" you had a sister? How is it your "fault" that any event in your life occurred? Hell, how is it a rape victim's fault that they were raped?
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    lol, you have completely missed my point then. Again, how is it your "fault" that you have the IQ that you do? How is it your "fault" that you went to elementary school (assuming you did)? How is it your "fault" you had a sister? How is it your "fault" that any event in your life occurred? Hell, how is it a rape victim's fault that they were raped?
    No one is placing fault on things that are out of our control.


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