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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    SO you don't see a difference? I didn't think so even though we have seen you howl many times your hatred of those who inherit wealth versus those who earned every penny of it


    You don't mind Michelle getting essentially a bribe. Obama's stupid ghost written book sells only because he holds a public office
    Ghost written!

    Any more retarded conspiracy theories you'd like to share?
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post

    I see and understand all that you wrote perfectly, but judging the Washington administration as an executive administration strictly on the question of slavery from the perspective we now hold, is severely weakening.

    You still don't get it, do you?

    The fact that it was the 18th century, and not yesterday morning, that Washington and Jefferson, owned Human Beings - or the fact that in the 18th century "everybody was doing it," is neither justifiable, or even remotely dignify-able as an answer and/or rebuttal to the point that was made. And, the fact that you still can't properly frame your reply, is not shocking to me - not at all. In fact, dialoging on this level with you, was very much predictable, for there are many highly confused Americans out there right now, who think just like you. Which means, they too lack the capacity to understand WHY the immorality exhibited by both Washington and Jefferson, was so egregious.

    Jefferson, had the real opportunity to free the Slaves, but instead, he decided to go back and do renovations on his home. How's that for total fail.

    The fact that you revel in their immorality is also not surprising, because this country revels in its immorality, all day long - while thinking of itself as being "civilized" and "erudite." Nothing could be further from the truth.

    You are no better than your best moral judgements. And, THAT my dear friend, is where you simply drop the ball.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sure beats using insider connections like Michelle Obama did.

    You lefties ooze envy towards those who actually followed the rules while kissing the asses of those who use political office to gain wealth
    What laws did Michelle break?

    No doubt it's far more commendable to run a buyout firm that, at its core, is based on phony bids that force out better paying competitors -- only to have the phony bid replaced with a low-ball offer once all of the other bidders are gone. Romney is a slimeball.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    You still don't get it, do you?

    The fact that it was the 18th century, and not yesterday morning, that Washington and Jefferson, owned Human Beings - or the fact that in the 18th century "everybody was doing it," is neither justifiable, or even remotely dignify-able as an answer and/or rebuttal to the point that was made. And, the fact that you still can't properly frame your reply, is not shocking to me - not at all. In fact, dialoging on this level with you, was very much predictable, for there are many highly confused Americans out there right now, who think just like you. Which means, they too lack the capacity to understand WHY the immorality exhibited by both Washington and Jefferson, was so egregious.

    Jefferson, had the real opportunity to free the Slaves, but instead, he decided to go back and do renovations on his home. How's that for total fail.

    The fact that you revel in their immorality is also not surprising, because this country revels in its immorality, all day long - while thinking of itself as being "civilized" and "erudite." Nothing could be further from the truth.

    You are no better than your best moral judgements. And, THAT my dear friend, is where you simply drop the ball.
    Actually, I think you are referring to the 19th century. Also, there were a lot of things going on world-wide then (not just in the US) that we'd deem barbaric now. And for the record, it was generally in the 19th century that slavery started becoming illegal in many countries (again, not just the US).

    edit: ah, on re-reading your post, I see that you were referring to Washington specifically...not just slavery.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What laws did Michelle break?

    No doubt it's far more commendable to run a buyout firm that, at its core, is based on phony bids that force out better paying competitors -- only to have the phony bid replaced with a low-ball offer once all of the other bidders are gone. Romney is a slimeball.
    Proof?? Perhaps just low blood sugar. Eat a candy bar and get to us.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    You still don't get it, do you?

    The fact that it was the 18th century, and not yesterday morning, that Washington and Jefferson, owned Human Beings - or the fact that in the 18th century "everybody was doing it," is neither justifiable, or even remotely dignify-able as an answer and/or rebuttal to the point that was made. And, the fact that still can't properly frame your reply, is not shocking to me - not at all. In fact, dialoging on this level with you, was very much predictable, for there are many highly confused Americans out there right now, who think just like you. Which means, they too lack the capacity to understand WHY the immorality exhibited by both Washington and Jefferson, was so egregious.

    The fact that you revel in their immorality is also not surprising, because this country revels in its immorality, all day long - while thinking of itself as being "civilized" and "erudite." Nothing could be further from the truth.

    You are no better than your best moral judgements. And, THAT my dear friend, is where you simply drop the ball.
    I'm not a presentist. I have to avoid that each and every day, otherwise I risk distorting the past to fit my morals, the morals of current society. Your preconceived notions about my lack of insight, my lack of empathy, my lack of being confronted with historical realities I find distasteful is simply stunning. Do you have any idea how many people, how many influential people, including Presidents of the United States who were eugenicists? We are talking about a group of people who quite literally, were attempting to create a master race, advocating the sterilization, marginalization, persecution, and deaths of people like me, people that I knew, grew up with, and aided, simply because we are going to exist in society. Do I not find that troubling each time I come across those documents? You would be out of your damn mind if you thought I didn't. Yet, I have to be careful, more than careful, about assessing such matters.

    Quite simply, to pull this back once more, the thing about our Presidents of the United States, from start to finish, were apart of the elite, advocated harmful and dangerous things, and made mistakes accordingly. Yet, they were which they were. How were they assessed. The Presidents who came from wealth and prominence were quite well accepted enough to be nominated, let alone elected. We cannot blankly assume that elite status renders one a bad President if we are also to presume that a great many other men who came before us were worthy of the job and did a decent to wonderful job. If we have so fundamentally changed over the past 50 years, so be it. I stand on the other side of the fence, but at least people would be able to declare without too much difficulty, that indeed, elite status is a reason for dismissal.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Wilson re-instated income tax? Mexican revolution? King George assassinated?

    There several significant things that occurred in 1913, which of them do you consider infamous?

    Funny, how you left out the biggest one of all. The one that allowed the 2008, economic implosion to become a reality.

    More homework for you, I guess.

    Geepers, no wonder this country is going to hell in a hand basket. We don't know our own history.

    Unreal. Just.....un.......real.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    I am wealthy, but my definition of wealth is probably different than most...
    My definition is based not on what I have, but what I don't need.
    I occasionally associate with very wealthy people, mostly at church functions....
    they act just like any other people, they don't have live in help, and they aren't above taking their turns when it comes to cleaning the church building. Do they have it easier than the rest of us? yes, they do, but very few of them got there overnight, or without considerable effort.
    truth be known, there are a lot of rich people living among us in secret. Why secrecy? so they won't have to deal with their neighbors jealousy. I dealt with that when all we had was a bit more than our neighbors....there were some who called us lucky. I told them we paid for our luck, the hard way.

    Ever read the book, "the millionaire next door"?
    From what I have read on line, Ann Romney's parents had a nanny in the household, probably back when Ann first had problems with her MS....but I haven't read that Mitt and Ann have ever had live-in help of any kind.....
    If they did, it will come out, not that it is anybody's business but their own.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    Funny, how you left out the biggest one of all. The one that allowed the 2008, economic implosion to become a reality.

    More homework for you, I guess.

    Geepers, no wonder this country is going to hell in a hand basket. We don't know our own history.

    Unreal. Just.....un.......real.
    Why don't we quit playing games and you just tell us your lunatic theory?
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    Republicans, have been telling this lie, ever since Obama lowered his hand during the Presidential Inauguration.
    Can you point to a specific policy where 'government' isn't the answer? Where it has been recommended to reduce the size in any agency?

    Can you point to where he has spent less money in his 3 years than Bush did in 8?

    The hole that you speak of, was created under Republican leadership.
    The whole this country is in, is due to both sides, and their out of control spending for decades. Centrist is what your lean says? Yeah, right....
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