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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    When the stay at home mother has two jobs instead of one.


    Why do I leave fathers out? Because this entire thread has been about stay at home mothers.

    And sure, it applies to fathers too. Being a working father is harder than being a stay at home father.


    I'm thinking the average stay at home mother vs. the average working mother. One works one "job" and the other works two.
    And in this day and age, the father doesn't? I'm a working Father, with a stay at home wife, and I work when I get home too. I'm also damn happy that my kids are at home with their mother rather than in a day care with someone "keeping them alive."


    I have to say, I love it when liberals who normally encourage people to "make their own choices, live their own way" come down on someone choosing to live a way that can be called "conventional" or "conservative".

    By the way, Michelle Obama was raised by a stay at home mother. Rather well, I'd say.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    A sundress for $2,000? Good gravy.
    Mmm....gravy.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Wouldn't you put the hole at the very least, back to the 1980s?
    In all fairness - I would place the initiation of the real hole, as far back as 1913.

    Now, ask me why. Or, do the math, and figure out why 1913, is a year that will live in veiled infamy - for two very sinister reasons.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    That's the problem with America today. You classify something that real Human Beings went through as being "anachronistic," as opposed being the causality for the social disaster we are witnessing today. You have a hard time making the connection between Causation and the Effect of Causation. People who think this way (or, fail to think) seem to ignore the universal rules of cause and effect.

    When I asked, how did that work out for George Washington, you took the question literally. That tells me (in no uncertain terms) that drawing the logical nexus between the causality of such immoral judgements, and the current set of social debacles this nation faces today with respect to race relations, is completely lost on you.

    I feel sorry, for those who can't see the clear connection between several hundred years of upholding such an immoral institution such as American Slavery, and the current sad state of affairs in this country today - which can be seen in all kinds of ways throughout our society. It's as if, some people are completely unable to comprehend the affects of their own history. Let alone, know anything about how to correct what still runs pervasively and destructively throughout this country.

    The fact that other nations did it, is no excuse - especially for a country that was supposed to have been founded on the principle that "all men are created equal," - as it simultaneously labeled a segment of its population, 3/5ths Human. The problem is not my recognition of these facts. The problem is the continual failure of too many in our society to muster the moral decency that allows them to recognize the absolute causal connection from the days of both Washington and Jefferson, to the present.

    Of course, when you've never had ancestors who lived through American Slavery, and when you never had ancestors who died because of American Slavery, and when you never had relatives (alive) who lived through Jim Crow, or who died as a direct result of trying to defeat Jim Crow; then you don't have the slightest clue about the things I speak about.

    And yet, despite all that you wrote, 1) Washington's administration was a damn huge success 2) Washington was revered by his colleagues 3) Continued to be revered for over 2 centuries. The question of slavery did not come into being the most important thing for that time period.

    I see and understand all that you wrote perfectly, but judging the Washington administration as an executive administration strictly on the question of slavery from the perspective we now hold, is severely weakening.

    I frequently dwell on the past in the relation to the present. It's what I do every day, and have for many years. It's not lost on me. I'm just damned cautious about History and our perceptions of it. The reason why I bring up anarchronisms is that your moral judgment upon Washington was not a large implication of Washington the President circa late 18th century, and was certainly not labeling him an immoral man in the 19th century.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    And in this day and age, the father doesn't? I'm a working Father, with a stay at home wife, and I work when I get home too. I'm also damn happy that my kids are at home with their mother rather than in a day care with someone "keeping them alive."


    I have to say, I love it when liberals who normally encourage people to "make their own choices, live their own way" come down on someone choosing to live a way that can be called "conventional" or "conservative".
    I know your response wasn't to me - but earlier when I was commenting on the issue (this morning) I wasn't giving a thought to her being a Stay at Home Mother - it was the 'after the kids are grown' part.

    Now Ann: after her kids were grown she didn't go get a job - or go back to college - she became heavily involved with numerous organizations that mainly centered around helping kids and families in a variety of ways. . . having volunteered my time: I know any such effort makes someone super busy.

    It sounds like she did that and then helped take care of their grandkids when they were born - enabling their mothers to stress less while they pursued careers (those that did, anyway).

    Having learned that (which I didn't know before) - I have respect for her, she sounds like she's been after one thing or another her entire life - and even while being ill with MS for the last 13 years she's still volunteering her time and efforts.

    That - overall - is my issue with people: whether they'er paid or not - I don't like it when people just rely on their spouse and don't make any effort to do anything with theirself in their entire life. . . this issue of mine comes from people I know who are just like that (my mother in law) - never been employed, never went to college, only spent her time and family fortune being a recluse drug addict, moved in with her mother when her husband left her in 69 and stayed there.

    Is Ann Romney like that? Hell no - but I'll admit that I honestly thought she was a recluse I'm imagining that a lot of people think the same.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    In all fairness - I would place the initiation of the real hole, as far back as 1913.

    Now, ask me why. Or, do the math, and figure out why 1913, is a year that will live in veiled infamy - for two very sinister reasons.
    Wilson re-instated income tax? Mexican revolution? King George assassinated?

    There several significant things that occurred in 1913, which of them do you consider infamous?
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    For many people, $2,000 for a wedding dress is completely beyond their means. The Michelle Obama dress we're talking about was a sundress. A sundress for $2,000? Good gravy.
    You are absolutely right, but since my wife watches "Say Yes to the Dress" a lot, I have learned that there are several people out there that spend $2000 or more for a wedding dress. But I totally agree, $2000 for a sundress (or any dress) is very expensive.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I know your response wasn't to me - but earlier when I was commenting on the issue (this morning) I wasn't giving a thought to her being a Stay at Home Mother - it was the 'after the kids are grown' part.

    Now Ann: after her kids were grown she didn't go get a job - or go back to college - she became heavily involved with numerous organizations that mainly centered around helping kids and families in a variety of ways. . . having volunteered my time: I know any such effort makes someone super busy.

    It sounds like she did that and then helped take care of their grandkids when they were born - enabling their mothers to stress less while they pursued careers (those that did, anyway).

    Having learned that (which I didn't know before) - I have respect for her, she sounds like she's been after one thing or another her entire life - and even while being ill with MS for the last 13 years she's still volunteering her time and efforts.

    That - overall - is my issue with people: whether they'er paid or not - I don't like it when people just rely on their spouse and don't make any effort to do anything with theirself in their entire life. . . this issue of mine comes from people I know who are just like that (my mother in law) - never been employed, never went to college, only spent her time and family fortune being a recluse drug addict, moved in with her mother when her husband left her in 69 and stayed there.

    Is Ann Romney like that? Hell no - but I'll admit that I honestly thought she was a recluse I'm imagining that a lot of people think the same.
    Well, perhaps this debate shed some light on the issue of "rich" stay at home mom's if nothing else.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Well, perhaps this debate shed some light on the issue of "rich" stay at home mom's if nothing else.
    Well - I think Ann's an exception to the rule of the 'spoiled rich trophy wife'
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well - I think Ann's an exception to the rule of the 'spoiled rich trophy wife'
    Well, I don't think she fits that category at all. And to be honest, If Governor Romney was worth a quarter billion dollars and didn't hire a few people to help his wife (suffering from Cancer and MS) raise 5 kids, he'd definitely be an asshole I wouldn't vote for.

    Besides, if he were a democrat...he'd be banging some aide on the side while his wife was dieing of cancer.....
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