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Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

Personally I don't give a crap if Anne worked or didn't. If she didn't have to, and didn't want to, who cares? If she comes out and starts giving speaches about the plight of working mothers, then it would be fair game. Until them it's no one's business.

So she shouldnt be allowed to have an opinion now? It's crazy how quickly this woman's rights are diminishing.
 
What I find a bit desperate about the Right's 'outrage' over this is someone so far away from the Center of Democratic Power, is being held as THE voice of the Democrats to counter mis-speaks coming from Willard's mouth directly.

Like most republican budgets, it just doesn't balance. :lol:

While the deflection from the statement Willard made is working fairly well, no doubt a campaign strategy to quickly attack any hint of Richie Rich labeling, the fact is a multi-millionaire wife hasn't much insight into what the average middle class working mom faces financially. I don't see her advice to Willard as very helpful in him understanding the Middle class.
 
Obama Campaign Runs From Strategist's Insult On Ann Romney | Fox News

A royal "stepping on your crank moment" for the Obama folks?

The underlying point that isn't being mentioned is that Hilary Rosen clearly believes that one's circumstances can and do invalidate an individual's point of view. In essence, Ms. Rosen has said that women that stay at home should not be listened to and should not have a voice...i.e. "stay in the kitchen, bare-foot and pregnant." This is further supported by her response to Mrs. Romney's tweet, where she said; "I am raising children too. But u do know that most young american women have to earn a living AND raise their kids don't u?"
 
So she shouldnt be allowed to have an opinion now? It's crazy how quickly this woman's rights are diminishing.

She's perfectly entitled to have an opinion, and it's no one's business. But if she puts herself out in front of the public -- campaigning for her husband -- and gives her opinion, then it is fair for others to question her credibility.
 
I'll bring Obama into this, but not in the way you think

Rosen in 2008: Attacks on Michelle Obama 'stupid' | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner
Michelle Rosen said:
"You know essentially, you've taken on sort of the most sympathetic person in the candidate's realm, the wife, who is taking care of the children, supporting the husband, doing everything she can because she loves him. Michelle Obama is a pretty terrific woman I have to say, and I think that attacking her is a dumb strategy on the Republican's part

Hmmm. Kinda makes her look really really douchee now.

Combine that with her visiting the White House 4 times as often as General Petraeus, 3 times as much as Leon Panetta, and more than twice that of Steven Chu, now you have an even bigger moment of dumb-ass-ery.
Hilary Rosen, Frequent White House Visitor - By Jim Geraghty - The Campaign Spot - National Review Online
 
She's perfectly entitled to have an opinion, and it's no one's business. But if she puts herself out in front of the public -- campaigning for her husband -- and gives her opinion, then it is fair for others to question her credibility.

Ok. So you then will not have a problem anytime anyone else, who makes a public statement, gets their personal life delved into and smeared when its completely unrelated?
 
Except it wasn't the "Obama folks" who made the comment. Makes about as much sense as blaming the Romney campaign for distance itself from something Eric Cantor said. Fox news just trying fabricate a gotcha moment on the Obama campaign and failing yet again. Nothing to see here.

Well, maybe they have something there, but on the other hand, if the KKK said something really racist and bad about Obama, could Democrats then say that a Republican operative made that claim? :mrgreen:
 
The underlying point that isn't being mentioned is that Hilary Rosen clearly believes that one's circumstances can and do invalidate an individual's point of view. In essence, Ms. Rosen has said that women that stay at home should not be listened to and should not have a voice...i.e. "stay in the kitchen, bare-foot and pregnant." This is further supported by her response to Mrs. Romney's tweet, where she said; "I am raising children too. But u do know that most young american women have to earn a living AND raise their kids don't u?"


Yahoo! How is it that you are the only one that saw this point. I thought the same thing, but wanted to see how others viewed the news story. Thanks.
 
So she shouldnt be allowed to have an opinion now? It's crazy how quickly this woman's rights are diminishing.

Please point out where he said she shouldn't have an opinion.

The simple fact is, yes, she can have an opinion. However, she isn't free from criticism after voicing that opinion.

Free speech works both ways.

Honestly, I don't see why people of both sides attack the family members. The family members aren't running for president, so they shouldn't matter.
 
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Ok. So you then will not have a problem anytime anyone else, who makes a public statement, gets their personal life delved into and smeared when its completely unrelated?



I think you have AdamT tied in enough knots, don't you? :lamo Anymore and it will be days before he gets untangled.
 
Ok. So you then will not have a problem anytime anyone else, who makes a public statement, gets their personal life delved into and smeared when its completely unrelated?

No, that does not follow from my statement. If Ann talked about the plight of working mothers -- as I said -- it would be fair game to point out that she has never worked and so has no personal experience with what it's like to be a working mother. It would not be appropriate to launch a broadside against her on matters unrelated to her statements.

Is this really so confusing to you?
 
Ok. So you then will not have a problem anytime anyone else, who makes a public statement, gets their personal life delved into and smeared when its completely unrelated?
I will agree with that, but you don't see a difference between questioning her credibility, and saying she "shouldn't have an opinion?" and telling her to "Go to hell", as one person said? Debate can only work if there is a fair amount of respect on both sides, afterall.
 
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I thought about this for a bit this morning.
This has nothing to do with Obama. Hillary Rosen is not an adviser on his staff.

Now, that aside, I cringed when I heard this. Politically, it’s really stupid, but more to the point is that we shouldn’t criticize another woman’s choices. It’s none of our business.

I agree with the statement, we shouldn't criticize another woman's choices. But keep in mind, Mitt brought her into the conversation multiple times when he said that he turns to his wife Ann for advice on economics and what the average family voter is concerned about. She has no clue what weighs heavy on the "average" working mom or regular American family.

She is the 1%. They worry about contractors getting their new house finished in time. (the one with the car elevator in the garage) Caterers putting on a great party for them. They don't worry about losing their job and not being able to pay the bills. She could feed a country with one check and not change her life whatsoever.

Mitt brought her into the conversation.
 


Dear liberals...

THIS IS WHAT HYPOCRISY LOOKS LIKE
See...it isnt hypocritical of we only concern ourselves with wealthy REPUBLICANS. Oh...wait...

Yes...they should bang that drum loudly. I'm SURE attacking all stay at home moms and claiming they 'never work a day in their life" will play well this election cycle. And anyone that actually BELIEVES and is STUPID enough to claim a stay at home mom never 'works'...yeah...boy...bang that drum LOUDLY. ****ing morons...
 
I'll bring Obama into this, but not in the way you think

Rosen in 2008: Attacks on Michelle Obama 'stupid' | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner


Hmmm. Kinda makes her look really really douchee now.

Combine that with her visiting the White House 4 times as often as General Petraeus, 3 times as much as Leon Panetta, and more than twice that of Steven Chu, now you have an even bigger moment of dumb-ass-ery.
Hilary Rosen, Frequent White House Visitor - By Jim Geraghty - The Campaign Spot - National Review Online



This is interesting! I can see the left doesn't abide by the "good for the goose, good for the gander" rule.

So this Demo spokesperson Rosen said "Rosen derided Republican attacks against Michelle Obama as an example as "stupid strategy." and "You know essentially, you've taken on sort of the most sympathetic person in the candidate's realm, the wife, who is taking care of the children, supporting the husband, doing everything she can because she loves him,"

But now she has changed her tune about "taking care of the children, supporting the husband."
 
This is interesting! I can see the left doesn't abide by the "good for the goose, good for the gander" rule.

So this Demo spokesperson Rosen said "Rosen derided Republican attacks against Michelle Obama as an example as "stupid strategy." and "You know essentially, you've taken on sort of the most sympathetic person in the candidate's realm, the wife, who is taking care of the children, supporting the husband, doing everything she can because she loves him,"

But now she has changed her tune about "taking care of the children, supporting the husband."

Could it be that Rosen is NOT the face of the Obama campaign and is simply a dumbass on her own?
 
There is plenty to be angry at romney about, both he and his wife are recorded as being "asshole, corrupt, flip-floppers" throughout their lives. Calling her out for being a "stay at home mom", and saying she has never a worked a day in her life...as if taking care of kids isn't working....is NOT one of those circumstances. I'm really considering voting for Obama, and at least he's doing the right thing by distancing himself. The left however, seems intent on trying to defend blatant disrespect.
 
Was John Kerry an "out of touch rich guy" back in 2004? I dont remember the complaints from the left about his extraordinary wealth back then.
John Kerry was out of touch and I'm pretty sure that was one of the main criticisms of him that came from the left in 2004.
 
As the potential First Lady of the United States, Mrs. Romney would have a considerable voice on issues. I don't see any problem with bringing her into the conversation, but it would have to be based on something she said/did. For example, if she came out in support of PETA and yet wore fur her entire life, it is only fair for Americans to see/know her hypocrisy. But to throw out a blanket statement that disparages what/who she is, is just ridiculous and will do nothing but make you look bad. Families should be off limits during the campaign, but not the potential First Lady.
 
How many of the pigs in Washington have ever done a days work? Were the Kennedys a coal mining family?
 
John Kerry was out of touch and I'm pretty sure that was one of the main criticisms of him that came from the left in 2004.

There's a difference between a rich guy who has devoted his career to helping the less fortunate, and a rich guy who spent his career as a corporate raider and who espouses huge tax cuts for himself and his rich friends.

In any case, John Kerry didn't grow up rich. His dad wasn't the head of a car company and a former governor. Kerry just married a rich lady.
 
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I was actually trying to focus on what this reflects of *his* views and *his* beliefs and how that might effect his decisions as president . . . not so much reflecting on her choices in life.

I just can't connect to her - women like her (like my mother in law - and my grandmother in law) I wouldn't choose her path (their path) in life: I would have felt like I failed as an individual if I spent my entire life caring for my kids and grandkids and became nothing more than my husband's sidekick and trophy wife. Honestly - until I started college I did feel like that about myself and it damn near drove me to suicide. So maybe I'm putting myself in her shoes and imagining myself wanting to claw my eyes out as I only became tethered to his hip my whole life - a mere dependent child that never grows up - and dies forever reliant on someone else's welfare to carry me through . . . not a feel-good thing to me at all.

So you are basically projecting. Not a good way to make a reasonable analysis.
 
See...it isnt hypocritical of we only concern ourselves with wealthy REPUBLICANS. Oh...wait...

Oh, I see... you two are changing the subject and trying to derail the thread. As if hypocrisy = staying on topic. No, it doesn't.

This thread is about Ann Romney never working a day in her life and advising her husband about concerns of the average working family.

If you don't mind, I'll stay on topic.

If you want to start a thread about a Dem wife, feel free.
 
Is it an insult to state a fact? She has never worked a day in her life. She married into money and has been a stay at home mom.

I believe being condescending and arrogant is usuall considered insulating.
 
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