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Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

Wiggen said:
No fear of you or your kids ever being in the military, right? That's for lesser folks than rich lawyers.
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That's not even close to what he said.
 
Obama was talking about allowing the top Bush tax cuts to sunset, which would have very little impact on a family making $250k, because it would only impose a small increase on income over $200k (actually with a cutoff somewhere between that and $250k). Subsequently Democrats amended their proposal so that the higher rates would only apply to income over $1 million -- which I think qualifies as well off no matter where you live.
 
TurtleDude said:
I believe that a fascist government-if it comes to that, needs to be taken out a government that takes 90% of someone's income is fascist and those who advocate such things are better off dead
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When England had such rates a few decades ago, were they a fascist government in any respect other than your unique interpretation that such rates in and on themselves constitutes fascism?

When the USA had that rate on the books, were we a fascistic nation in any other respect?

And it is still extremely sad for anyone here to advocate murder because they cannot win a debate on public policy in the real arena.
 
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Μολὼν λαβέ;1060395825 said:
I wouldn't have been surprised if the venom had not spewed from the lips of Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

I also wonder how many points Obama will drop in the polls after that obvious "war on women" statement by a liberal pundit.
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Hardly a war on women statement by a liberal pundit. More a 'war on wealthy women who pretend they know what average women go through'. Not quite up there with the trans-vaginal probes you guys on the right are so fond of.
 
mac said:
That's not even close to what he said.
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In my opinion it's exactly what he said. I know the type. They're the ones who went on to be corporate attorneys when the rest of us were being drafted. Let the lesser people do the dirty work has always been the attitude of the rich.
 
haymarket said:
When England had such rates a few decades ago, were they a fascist government in any respect other than your unique interpretation that such rates in and on themselves constitutes fascism?

When the USA had that rate on the books, were we a fascistic nation in any other respect?

And it is still extremely sad for anyone here to advocate murder because they cannot win a debate on public policy in the real arena.
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Huh, I guess Truman and Eisenhower were fascists.
 
mac said:
FactCheck.org : Americans Making More than $250,000
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Looked at your website. This was dated in 2008 for those making $250K and the figure was "folks will earn 24.1 percent of all income, and pay 43.6 percent of all personal federal income taxes, the Tax Policy Center figures." Tell how that is fair?

So President Obama wants to get rid of the current tax cuts we enjoy and then raise taxes more on those making $250K.

Hell, I don't think the govt could do any better if they were "wearing a mask and holding a gun on you".
 
Wiggen said:
Hardly a war on women statement by a liberal pundit. More a 'war on wealthy women who pretend they know what average women go through'. Not quite up there with the trans-vaginal probes you guys on the right are so fond of.
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Can you quote Ann Romney saying she knows what average women go through?
 
Wiggen said:
In my opinion it's exactly what he said. I know the type. They're the ones who went on to be corporate attorneys when the rest of us were being drafted. Let the lesser people do the dirty work has always been the attitude of the rich.
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Actually, everything I've seen from TD illustrates a deep respect for those that served. Your opinion on what he said is simply that, your opinion, not what he actually said.
 
UtahBill said:
yeah, blowback tends to be messy...it isn't just the words that Rosen spoke, it is also who and what she is. The average woman voter will identify more with a mother who raised her own children than a Lesbian who probably uses daycare.
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Yes, real women all over the country are lining up to identify with Ann Romeny and her half a dozen houses, two cadillacs, and 400 million dollars. What planet do you folks live on?
 
mac said:
Actually, everything I've seen from TD illustrates a deep respect for those that served. Your opinion on what he said is simply that, your opinion, not what he actually said.
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Probably not enough actual respect to have any of his kids serve, or to serve himself. Hard to make a half a million dollars a year as a soldier.

I've never seen him express any particular admiration for those who serve. You know how you really show admiration for those who serve? Go serve.
 
Wiggen said:
Yes, real women all over the country are lining up to identify with Ann Romeny and her half a dozen houses, two cadillacs, and 400 million dollars. What planet do you folks live on?
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And you think Rosen is poor?
 
Wiggen said:
I'm sure this made sense to you. My point was, don't pretend like you speak for all taxpayers. You don't. You speak for the Far Right faction of the Republican Party, which is, thank God, still a minority and likely to remain so.
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Well you were telling me you'd been working for 30 odd years. All I said was you don't get a gold star for doing what you're supposed to do.

I don't want to surprise you, but you ain't cherry in this "working for 30 year" thing. Most people work for what they have.

With the Rosen/Romeny screw-up and Romney now being preceived as the Repub candidate, I wouldn't be to fast on the "minority" draw if I was you. :)
 
Wiggen said:
Probably not enough actual respect to have any of his kids serve, or to serve himself. Hard to make a half a million dollars a year as a soldier.

I've never seen him express any particular admiration for those who serve. You know how you really show admiration for those who serve? Go serve.
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Very few Americans serve...quite a few support those that do. Sounds like you'd just rather pat yourself on the back.




p.s. Neither President Obama nor most of his cabinet served....just saying.
 
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mac said:
Can you quote Ann Romney saying she knows what average women go through?
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Every time she speaks. She's a rich woman who's never had to worry about a thing in her lives, and now you are all wringing your hands because of some perceived insult and equating it with the ongoing Republican assault on birth control and reproductive rights. It's this right wing 'women are really happier if they're barefoot and pregnant' approach, with an emphasis on the 'pregnant.'
 
UtahBill said:
I didn't ask if you were "liked", just if anyone agrees with you....
we know nothing about you becuase like a lot of posters here, you want to remain anonymous.
You are in college? what is your major?
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You don't have to answer that, Jyran. It's nobodies damn business.
The more I read in this thread, the more I am amazed at how some turn differing views into personal attacks...or asked why they choose to post on this board. Guess ya gotta belong to the clique? Sorry...some aren't in to such silly games. But it is an eye opener.

Ok. Done. Carry on.
 
Wiggen said:
Yes, real women all over the country are lining up to identify with Ann Romeny and her half a dozen houses, two cadillacs, and 400 million dollars. What planet do you folks live on?
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Why do you look at her as if she's some flat character? There's more to her than just money. She has MS, she's raised 5 boys, she's a wife, she's a cancer survivor.... There are lots of things for women to relate to there.
 
mac said:
Very few Americans serve...quite a few support those that do. Sounds like you'd just rather pat yourself on the back.
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And how exactly do you support those who do? Have one of those fancy bumper stickers on your car? Or do you take the Willard Romney approach, and decide to take your 4 year Mormon mission in Paris during the Vietnam War?
 
Wiggen said:
Probably not enough actual respect to have any of his kids serve, or to serve himself. Hard to make a half a million dollars a year as a soldier.

I've never seen him express any particular admiration for those who serve. You know how you really show admiration for those who serve? Go serve.
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He's hell on those paper targets, though! If we're ever attacked by paper targets TD will be all over that ****.
 
Josie said:
Why do you look at her as if she's some flat character? There's more to her than just money. She has MS, she's raised 5 boys, she's a wife, she's a cancer survivor.... There are lots of things for women to relate to there.
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Yes, I'm sure poor women all over are identifying with her and her half a dozen houses and 400 million dollars.
 
One last comment....I think you are holding strong in your opinions, Jyran, and learning from some of the more "patient" non judgemental posters here. Good on you.:)
 
Wiggen said:
Every time she speaks. She's a rich woman who's never had to worry about a thing in her lives, and now you are all wringing your hands because of some perceived insult and equating it with the ongoing Republican assault on birth control and reproductive rights. It's this right wing 'women are really happier if they're barefoot and pregnant' approach, with an emphasis on the 'pregnant.'
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Is birth control legal? Yes Is abortion legal? Yes. So where's the war. You're confusing opinions with fact. One fact is tht Rosen did try a Demo smack down on Ann Romney and had to eat crow, yes?

Your post drip from venom and envy, it's not becoming, ya know.
 
Wiggen said:
Yes, I'm sure poor women all over are identifying with her and her half a dozen houses and 400 million dollars.
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You obviously didn't read my post or you just don't care.
 
Wiggen said:
Yes, I'm sure poor women all over are identifying with her and her half a dozen houses and 400 million dollars.
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I went "home", to my old home board. Funny, but most there don't identify with her at all...just like me.

Maybe I'll hang out there more often since folks are allowed to give an opinion without being told DP is not the place for them.
 
Wiggen said:
Yes, I'm sure poor women all over are identifying with her and her half a dozen houses and 400 million dollars.
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Is that some how a crime? They have money....so what? Why is it that, in your mind, rich people shouldn't be in office?
 
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