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Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

Personally, I think this is a bad choice of words. She should have said, "Ann Romney has never held down a job a single day in her life." Then us on the left at least could have retreated to our dictionaries:

Work:
Activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result.
Job:
A paid position of regular employment.

I don't see where the point of all of this is really. If someone says something and then realizes that they are wrong. Why should they be blamed for being corrected? That is, of course, if her addendum and apologies were sincere. (Only saying this for those who will bring up Limbaugh.)

EDIT:

Synonyms for Work:
job - labor - business - labour - occupation - employment
(Might paint a different picture I suppose)
 
The other one that gets me about the Democrats is......

Maria Cardona, a specialist in Hispanic outreach at the Dewey Square Group......snip~

What I want to know is
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is a Specialist in Hispanic Outreach, and why Democrats waste money on this type of Crap.
 
I'm starting to believe this "call out Ann Romney" was directly from the DNC play book. They need the female vote and thought this would bring over some of the "independent women's" vote. But seems it backfired on them big time.
 
I'm starting to believe this "call out Ann Romney" was directly from the DNC play book. They need the female vote and thought this would bring over some of the "independent women's" vote. But seems it backfired on them big time.

I think it was a secret plot by the Trilateral Commission ... and it's working peeeeeerfectly. Mwahahaha.
 
All sides spend money on stuff like this--image-consultants and spin-doctors. This isn't a Dem thing; it's a modern-politician thing.
 
I think it was a secret plot by the Trilateral Commission ... and it's working peeeeeerfectly. Mwahahaha.


You, friend, should cut back on the Marvel comics. :mrgreen:
 
I'm starting to believe this "call out Ann Romney" was directly from the DNC play book. They need the female vote and thought this would bring over some of the "independent women's" vote. But seems it backfired on them big time.

Yes.....Obama hires Rosen to work as an Advisor to the DNC Chair. Schultz wouldnt get vocal so Rosen stepped out. Why didn't Wassermann Schultz prevent her advisor from going public?
 
Hilary Rosen was wrong to make a pointless attack on Romney's wife. As usual, Fox was also wrong in using this incident to levy a baseless smear against Obama.

I do not agree that it was pointless or an attack. But you are right, Fox is not really honest in it's attacks on Obama.

The reason why I say that it was not really pointless or an attack is this:

Romney has said that his wife if the one who informs him that women really care about economic issues. But he did not say how she knows. If he had said that his wife has talked to numerous women who have told her so it would make his statement understandable because how would Ann Romney know the daily struggles of regular women? She is not someone who personally knows the struggles of women who have to balance 2 or 3 jobs with raising and caring for her kids. She never has to worry where she will get the money from for feeding her kids. Who is going to pick them up from school when she has to work overtime, etc. etc. etc. etc. I am sure that Ann Romney never had to worry about her kids scholastic future as regular women do have to worry where they are going to get the money from to send their kids to college etc.

Personal experiences about economic hardships and the daily issues that a mother has these days Ann Romney does not have. And that is what I think Hiary Rosen actually said. She questioned what makes Ann Romney Mitt's expert on women's economic worries as she never had any of these worries herself.

What you have is Mitt Romney running around the country saying, "Well, you know, my wife tells me that what women really care about are economic issues. And when I listen to my wife, that's what I'm hearing."

Guess what? His wife has actually never worked a day in her life. She's never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of the women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our kids, how do we send them to school, and how do we -- why we worry about their future.

The problem is that Foxnews only focussed on the first part of her statement and not why this lady (who is not a democratic pundit) said what she did.
 
I'm starting to believe this "call out Ann Romney" was directly from the DNC play book. They need the female vote and thought this would bring over some of the "independent women's" vote. But seems it backfired on them big time.

I agree with you in part. I don't think Hilary Rosen was necessarily "going rogue"; I think she just went too far. Luminaries such as Axelrod Tweeting instantly to distance themselves says it all.
 
Yes.....Obama hires Rosen to work as an Advisor to the DNC Chair. Schultz wouldnt get vocal so Rosen stepped out. Why didn't Wassermann Schultz prevent her advisor from going public?


I guessing the DNC didn't think this Rosen thing could turn like it did and bite them in the butt. But good on them, now we know how they feel about stay and home moms . . . not much.
 
The woman was a mom to FIVE kids, has MS and is a breast cancer survivor....give me a break!

She is a great mother, a brave woman who has done a lot of good work for charitable causes and who is a good wife. She has overcome great struggles in lfe wich is also very admirable.

But
, all these things do not make her an expert on the struggle that ordinary mothers face in this current economy.
 
I guessing the DNC didn't think this Rosen thing could turn like it did and bite them in the butt. But good on them, now we know how they feel about stay and home moms . . . not much.



Well truthfully when did Rosen ever start Sporting credentials in human behaviour? Course she wouldn't want to have to explain away Hollywood Wives that decide to get divorced four and 5 times and have everybody else under the sun raise their kids either. While attending DNC dinners where the plates are like 5000k a pop or more.
 
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I agree with you in part. I don't think Hilary Rosen was necessarily "going rogue"; I think she just went too far. Luminaries such as Axelrod Tweeting instantly to distance themselves says it all.



You da*n right Axelrod jump this run-a-way train. When he saw the wreck coming, he knew it wasn't gonna turn out the way they had hoped.
 
I do not agree that it was pointless or an attack. But you are right, Fox is not really honest in it's attacks on Obama.

The reason why I say that it was not really pointless or an attack is this:

Romney has said that his wife if the one who informs him that women really care about economic issues. But he did not say how she knows. If he had said that his wife has talked to numerous women who have told her so it would make his statement understandable because how would Ann Romney know the daily struggles of regular women? She is not someone who personally knows the struggles of women who have to balance 2 or 3 jobs with raising and caring for her kids. She never has to worry where she will get the money from for feeding her kids. Who is going to pick them up from school when she has to work overtime, etc. etc. etc. etc. I am sure that Ann Romney never had to worry about her kids scholastic future as regular women do have to worry where they are going to get the money from to send their kids to college etc.

Personal experiences about economic hardships and the daily issues that a mother has these days Ann Romney does not have. And that is what I think Hiary Rosen actually said. She questioned what makes Ann Romney Mitt's expert on women's economic worries as she never had any of these worries herself.

The problem is that Foxnews only focussed on the first part of her statement and not why this lady (who is not a democratic pundit) said what she did.

I don't care why Rosen said what she did. She said it, and it's out there now for all time--her contempt for stay-at-home mothers. (Maybe she's alway felt a little guilty after going to the trouble to adopt, she herself didn't stay home with her twins? Who knows?)

As for Ann Romney, maybe she never drove her sons to school or baseball practice or Scouts. My bet is that she did, but I don't know. Do you?

Here's what I do know: Cancer is a tremendous equalizer, and Ann Romney has spent time with other cancer patients and facing what they do. Stereotyping her or anybody else based on wealth is just really...narrow. It says much more about how you regard other individuals that it does about her.

The Romney's children appear to have turned out well. This doesn't have anything to do with money either.
 
I find it incredibly stupid to say that a woman who raised 5 children hasn't worked a day in her life. I guess we all have different definitions of "work". As for her choice not to find paid work after she was done raising all those boys, that doesn't mean she does nothing all day. In my experience, these women often volunteer for charitable work and with 16 grandkids, I'm sure she's not done taking care of family. :shrug:

Well, it is surely a lot of hard work to raise 5 children, but it is a little bit easier if you have hired help to do work that working class mothers cannot outsource to paid help. A working mother has to work 1 or 2 jobs, raise the children and also (usually almost by herself) run the household and do all the household chores.

I am not sure she had paid help all the time but for parts of the childrens life/Ann Romney's run as a mother she has had paid help to do things that working mothers do not have access to.
 
Well truthfully when did Rosen ever start Sporting credentials in human behaviour? Course she wouldn't want to have to explain away Hollywood Wives that decide to get divorced four and 5 times and have everybody else under the sun raise their kids either. While attending DNC dinners where the plates are like 5000k a pop or more.


Won't dispute any of your post.


But for all the screaming about the "rich" from the left, guess who is the biggest, richest, Libby financier - George "The Billionare" Soros. You don't hear any Libby complaining about how Soros got his money. I'll bet the French could explain how the Old Pirate got a few of his millions. But then the Libbys can't see past their hatred for Ms. Romney as a stay at home mom, to take a look at Soros.
 
The problem is that Foxnews only focussed on the first part of her statement and not why this lady (who is not a democratic pundit) said what she did.

Hilary Rosen is a Democrat Pundit, and is a Democrat advisor. Dude, I can see why you'd want to distance your party from her, but at least tell the truth.
 
Well, it is surely a lot of hard work to raise 5 children, but it is a little bit easier if you have hired help to do work that working class mothers cannot outsource to paid help. A working mother has to work 1 or 2 jobs, raise the children and also (usually almost by herself) run the household and do all the household chores.

I am not sure she had paid help all the time but for parts of the childrens life/Ann Romney's run as a mother she has had paid help to do things that working mothers do not have access to.

And you know this how?
 
She is a great mother, a brave woman who has done a lot of good work for charitable causes and who is a good wife. She has overcome great struggles in lfe wich is also very admirable.

But
, all these things do not make her an expert on the struggle that ordinary mothers face in this current economy.


I don't think a woman who got into two top universities merely because she is black and then got a top law job because she was black and then after screwing that up, got a huge salary merely because her husband was elected to the senate has much of a take on reality either.

the fact is, once a person is in contention to be President, they and their spouse have pretty well escaped the gravitational pull of ordinary mundane life that most people experience
 
She is a great mother, a brave woman who has done a lot of good work for charitable causes and who is a good wife. She has overcome great struggles in lfe wich is also very admirable.

But
, all these things do not make her an expert on the struggle that ordinary mothers face in this current economy.

And of course by contrast, you'd say the Michelle Obama is in touch with the average American mother?

"Following law school, she was an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley Austin, where she first met her future husband. At the firm, she worked on marketing and intellectual property.[SUP][4][/SUP] She continues to hold her law license, but as she no longer needs it for her work, it has been on a voluntary inactive status since 1993.[SUP][46][/SUP]In 1991, she held public sector positions in the Chicago city government as an Assistant to the Mayor, and as Assistant Commissioner of Planning and Development. In 1993, she became Executive Director for the Chicago office of Public Allies, a non-profit organization encouraging young people to work on social issues in nonprofit groups and government agencies.[SUP][19][/SUP] She worked there nearly four years and set fundraising records for the organization that still stood 12 years after she left.[SUP][17][/SUP]
In 1996, she served as the Associate Dean of Student Services at the University of Chicago, where she developed the University's Community Service Center.[SUP][47][/SUP] In 2002, she began working for the University of Chicago Hospitals, first as executive director for community affairs and, beginning May 2005, as Vice President for Community and External Affairs.[SUP][48][/SUP] She continued to hold the University of Chicago Hospitals position during the primary campaign, but cut back to part time in order to spend time with her daughters as well as work for her husband's election;[SUP][49][/SUP] she subsequently took a leave of absence from her job.[SUP][50][/SUP] According to the couple’s 2006 income tax return, her salary was $273,618 from the University of Chicago Hospitals, while her husband had a salary of $157,082 from the United States Senate. The Obamas' total income, however, was $991,296, which included $51,200 she earned as a member of the board of directors of TreeHouse Foods, and investments and royalties from his books.[SUP][51][/SUP]
She served as a salaried board member of TreeHouse Foods, Inc. (NYSE: THS),[SUP][52][/SUP] a major Wal-Mart supplier with whom she cut ties immediately after her husband made comments critical of Wal-Mart at an AFL-CIO forum in Trenton, New Jersey, on May 14, 2007.[SUP][53][/SUP] She serves on the board of directors of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs.[SUP][54]"[/SUP]
 
And of course by contrast, you'd say the Michelle Obama is in touch with the average American mother?

I think that is a hard thing to accomplish their mac. I mean how can you say that anyone is in touch with the average american mother when one takes a look on these forums?

That would be like me saying I'm in touch with the average american father. What is average in her standard? Is it the average conservative mother? The average liberal mother?

The point is that this was a political statement that left out ALL politics when it was spoken.
 
She is a great mother, a brave woman who has done a lot of good work for charitable causes and who is a good wife. She has overcome great struggles in lfe wich is also very admirable.

But
, all these things do not make her an expert on the struggle that ordinary mothers face in this current economy.

Who is an expert on this struggle and would that make them a better president if they were? Certainly there are far more desirable qualifications needed at the moment.

Her husband wants to change this current economy into something much better, and so does she. He is an expert in turning companies around, he also did it for Massachusetts and that seems just the thing the US needs at the moment.
 
I think that is a hard thing to accomplish their mac. I mean how can you say that anyone is in touch with the average american mother when one takes a look on these forums?

That would be like me saying I'm in touch with the average american father. What is average in her standard? Is it the average conservative mother? The average liberal mother?

The point is that this was a political statement that left out ALL politics when it was spoken.

Which makes Rosen's comment simply nothing more than an attempt to disparage the Romney's for political reasons. :shrug:
 
Which makes Rosen's comment simply nothing more than an attempt to disparage the Romney's for political reasons. :shrug:

lol, our crazy political system at work.
 
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