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Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

Gore invented the internet!

And, Bush 43 invented a new definition of "Mission Accomplished!"

Rock on, O' cluless one.


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How man posts does it take to earn your DP B.S. Degree online?
 
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It's not that Romney is the rich guy. He's the rich guy who doesn't get it. He's just saying what he needs to say to win, and if he wins, you won't notice much difference between him and Obama.



I'm guessing you're one of the disappointed Cons who wanted one of the "other candidates". Sorry you didn't get your pick of the lot.


My goal, now watch the Libbys come at me with long knives, is to see President Obama be a one term president.

Furthermore, they all say "what (th)he needs to say to win". I don't know of any president or senator or representative that doesn't say what they think "we" want to hear.
 
Hey, look - you are not the only one out there! I'm not tossing that out as an excuse for you, I'm just laying out the facts. There are tons of Americans out there, who think that the American Institution of Slavery, has no relevant impact on today's American society and its attached social traits. You are not alone in this delusion and this utter distortion of reality. But, I can promise you that it is real. I grew-up with it and the American Institution of Slavery, was very relevant in my family, as it is to this very day. The fact that I have to explain something like this to one who writes with the degree of fluency that you write with, is also not very surprising.

The fact that you took this to mean that I do not understand the consequences of the slave trade, antebellum American slavery, and contemporary American society is incorrect. I understand quite well. I studied under prominent scholars in the field, including one of the few specialists on the American Colonization Society. I'm just not going far enough to throw out everything that the administration of Washington & Jefferson accomplished because of it. Unless your intention was to spite Josie for mentioning Washington, thinking that she thought there was nothing of question under him. If that was the case, job well done, yet, why?



I can read between the lines, very well. Are you saying that you are Jewish, or Arab/Muslim?

No. I'm not Jewish or an Arab.

But, if those documents are anything like the documents that I have read on issues such as Northwoods, Project T/P Ajax and the like, then I fully understand the concerns you might have about such "leaders," especially when they are given such enormous power - such as that given to one who commands the United States Military.

Why do I have the feeling I am going down an all too familiar path with you once you mentioned Northwoods and "Pearl Harbor" PNAC references?
 
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what Romney's wife does is her choice.

however, their luxurious lifestyle just goes to show how far out of step they are with the rest of the American people, and how they have no right in any way to claim to have any connection with average Americans.

The Romneys are like the Republicans of the 80s and 70s. Rich, clueless, and detached from normal society.
 
On this we agree. I just think if anyone of importance criticizes Michelle, the President will say, "Hey... I didn't like it when someone on the left did it to Ann Romney, so let's not do it to my wife either."

Disrespecting and criticizing are different.
 
I am wealthy, but my definition of wealth is probably different than most...
My definition is based not on what I have, but what I don't need.
I occasionally associate with very wealthy people, mostly at church functions....
they act just like any other people, they don't have live in help, and they aren't above taking their turns when it comes to cleaning the church building. Do they have it easier than the rest of us? yes, they do, but very few of them got there overnight, or without considerable effort.
truth be known, there are a lot of rich people living among us in secret. Why secrecy? so they won't have to deal with their neighbors jealousy. I dealt with that when all we had was a bit more than our neighbors....there were some who called us lucky. I told them we paid for our luck, the hard way.

Ever read the book, "the millionaire next door"?
From what I have read on line, Ann Romney's parents had a nanny in the household, probably back when Ann first had problems with her MS....but I haven't read that Mitt and Ann have ever had live-in help of any kind.....
If they did, it will come out, not that it is anybody's business but their own.

If that's the case, Mac isn't going to vote for him
 
If that's the case, Mac isn't going to vote for him

I said if he wouldn't. Her not wanting help is a different matter.

Way to make it about me though.
 
what Romney's wife does is her choice.

however, their luxurious lifestyle just goes to show how far out of step they are with the rest of the American people, and how they have no right in any way to claim to have any connection with average Americans.

The Romneys are like the Republicans of the 80s and 70s. Rich, clueless, and detached from normal society.

I still haven't seen proof of a luxurious life style....
but I do know people with 2 homes, a car kept at each home, and a third or 4th besides....oops, that's me.....to be honest, only one car is new, a year old. The rest are 10 yrs old or older.
and we go on a cruise every year, those are surprisingly cheap...
I also know many people who have and/or do all those things, on credit. We pay cash or we don't have it or do it...
Our combined income never exceeded $130K, and that was only our last few years working.
It is quite easy to live well in your "golden' years, as long as you haven't already gone into massive debt living well in your early years...
 
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The Washington Monthly - Ten Miles Square - Mitt Romney and Ann: “Struggling” Students

Mitt Romney is going around saying that he made all his money himself, aside from a loan from his dad to buy his first house.

Journalists who buy that have short memories. I was living in Massachusetts when Romney first ran for the Senate, and remembered this interview with Ann Romney in the Boston Globe (by Jack Thomas, October 20, 1994; the abstract is here; the full text costs $4.95). Of her student days with Mitt at BYU, Ann said:

They were not easy years. You have to understand, I was raised in a lovely neighborhood, as was Mitt, and at BYU, we moved into a $62-a-month basement apartment with a cement floor and lived there two years as students with no income.

It was tiny. And I didn’t have money to carpet the floor. But you can get remnants, samples, so I glued them together, all different colors. It looked awful, but it was carpeting.

We were happy, studying hard. Neither one of us had a job, because Mitt had enough of an investment from stock that we could sell off a little at a time.

The stock came from Mitt’s father. When he took over American Motors, the stock was worth nothing. But he invested Mitt’s birthday money year to year — it wasn’t much, a few thousand, but he put it into American Motors because he believed in himself. Five years later, stock that had been $6 a share was $96 and Mitt cashed it so we could live and pay for education.

Mitt and I walked to class together, shared housekeeping, had a lot of pasta and tuna fish and learned hard lessons.



We had our first child in that tiny apartment. We couldn’t afford a desk, so we used a door propped on sawhorses in our bedroom. It was a big door, so we could study on it together. And we bought a portable crib, took the legs off and put it on the desk while we studied. I had a baby sitter during class time, but otherwise, I’d hold my son on my lap while I studied.

The funny thing is that I never expected help. My father had become wealthy through hard work, as did Mitt’s father, but I never expected our parents to take care of us. They’d visit, laugh and say, `We can’t believe you guys are living like this.’ They’d take us out to dinner, have a good time, then leave.

We stayed till Mitt graduated in 1971, and when he was accepted at Harvard Law, we came east. He was also accepted at Harvard Business School as part of a joint program that admits 25 a year, so he was getting degrees from Harvard Law and Business schools at the same time.

Remember, we’d been paying $62 a month rent, but here, rents were $400, and for a dump. This is when we took the now-famous loan that Mitt talks about from his father and bought a $42,000 home in Belmont, and you know? The mortgage payment was less than rent. Mitt saw that the Boston market was behind Chicago, LA and New York. We stayed there seven years and sold it for $90,000, so we not only stayed for free, we made money. As I said, Mitt’s very bright.

Another son came along 18 months later, although we waited four years to have the third, because Mitt was still in school and we had no income except the stock we were chipping away at. We were living on the edge, not entertaining. No, I did not work. Mitt thought it was important for me to stay home with the children, and I was delighted.

Right after Mitt graduated in 1975, we had our third boy and it was about the time Mitt’s first paycheck came along. So, we were married a long time before we had any income, about five years as struggling students. …

Now, every once in a while, we say if things get rough, we can go back to a $62-a-month apartment and be happy. All we need is each other and a little corner and we’ll be fine.”

Ann was widely mocked for this at the time. I don’t dissent from the mockery. Her idea of her and Mitt facing “not easy years,” having “no income,” “living on the edge” as “struggling students,” was that the couple had had to face college with only sale of stock to sustain them. By Ann’s own account, the stock amounted to “a few thousand” dollars when bought, but it had gone up by a factor of sixteen. So let’s conservatively say that they got through five years as students—neither one of them working—only by “chipping away at” assets of $60,000 in 1969 dollars (about $377,000 today).

Look. I don’t begrudge Romney’s having had his college tuition and living expenses paid for with family money. Mine were too. My background, though not as fancy as Mitt or Ann Romney’s, was privileged enough. But the guy should just come out and admit it: “I was a child of privilege and have my parents’ wealth to thank for my education. That said, I worked very very hard in business, and the vast majority of my fortune I earned myself.”

But there is of course a reason he can’t say that: such a statement is customarily followed by an expression of gratitude and a willingness to give something back to society. And gratitude and a willingness to give something back are precisely what Romney lacks—in common with the party he’s aspiring to represent.

My apologies if this is information already posted. Just thought it might be pertinent. Carry on.
 
I've had in-person, sit down discussions with University Professors, who did not understand what the heck I was talking about -

Perhaps if you find that professors, and other educated people on a forum such as this can not understand what you are talking about, maybe the problem is not everyone else.
 
And, Bush 43 invented a new definition of "Mission Accomplished!"

You seem to miss the fact that the banner had nothing to do with him. And down the hill further you slide.
 
Not really - all of her kids are grown: why isn't she employed now? Is it considered a sin in their eyes to find employment when you're a woman?

She doesn't need to work. Plus, she's like 63, isn't she? Many people are retired by then.
 
I find it incredibly stupid to say that a woman who raised 5 children hasn't worked a day in her life. I guess we all have different definitions of "work". As for her choice not to find paid work after she was done raising all those boys, that doesn't mean she does nothing all day. In my experience, these women often volunteer for charitable work and with 16 grandkids, I'm sure she's not done taking care of family. :shrug:
Let's be honest. If the husband is worth hundreds of millions of dollars, the experience of the stay at home mom will be quite different than the stay at home mom's we're likely to know and love.
I don't think it's a reasonable or fair comparison to compare a family who manages to get by on one income so that the mother can raise the kids with someone who has the wherewithal to have their housework, meal making, etc done by someone else.

I just have real doubts that Anne Romney's stay at home mom experience really comparable to that of anyone here on the board.
 
She doesn't need to work. Plus, she's like 63, isn't she? Many people are retired by then.
Isn't it being cruel, wanting grandma Romney to go to work at her age....? who is going to spoil the grandkids? :2razz:
 
Isn't it being cruel, wanting grandma Romney to go to work at her age....? who is going to spoil the grandkids? :2razz:

And why would someone want Mrs. Romney to take a job away from someone who actually needs one?
 
Isn't it being cruel, wanting grandma Romney to go to work at her age....? who is going to spoil the grandkids? :2razz:

envy is a bitch isn't it? ;)
 
I still haven't seen proof of a luxurious life style....
but I do know people with 2 homes, a car kept at each home, and a third or 4th besides....oops, that's me.....to be honest, only one car is new, a year old. The rest are 10 yrs old or older.
and we go on a cruise every year, those are surprisingly cheap...
I also know many people who have and/or do all those things, on credit. We pay cash or we don't have it or do it...
Our combined income never exceeded $130K, and that was only our last few years working.
It is quite easy to live well in your "golden' years, as long as you haven't already gone into massive debt living well in your early years...


Man, you sound like me. I've worked my bee-hind off and am looking forward.

I've saved. I've bought want I needed and not so much of the "what I wanted". I bought my 1st house and my mom-in-law stated: "you can't possibly live in this place!" We both decided yes we could because "this place" was what we could afford.

We've invested well, lost have of our stocks when it crashed, but had other savings, property, investments, etc. I designed, built and own my current home free and clear. But it took watching every nickel and dime.


So to keep to the thread, Romney's wealth or Ms Romney being a stay and home wife, doesn't bother me at all. I have sufficient. I just want the leadership to stop with the spending of money we don't have.
 
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You seem to miss the fact that the banner had nothing to do with him.
Apparently you're right. The White House only made and hung the banner. But other than that...

Bush's 'Bannergate' Shuffle -- Printout -- TIME

"White House had to amend its account. The soldiers hadn't put up the sign; the White House had done the hoisting. It had also produced the banner — contrary to what senior White House officials had said for months. In the end, the White House conceded on those details, but declared them mere quibbles."
 
Oh heavens - We all know Romney's financial history: it's not all pearly gates and golden roses, there. . . he's smarmy - Bain Capital was smarmy.

*takes away the pedistals because no one knows how to play with them the right way*

I find what Romney has done to get his wealth far more admirable than the way the Gores, the clintons and the obamas have done to get wealth
 
JFK's family got their fortune through bootlegging.

and insider trading after that. Joe Kennedy was a master of using his government connections to get insider information.

another big dem-one of the most socialist in history (he was head of the socialist National Lawyers guild) was HOward Metzenscum of Ohio. He got tips where the federal government was going to establish an international airport in NW Ohio. Metzenscum bought up land in the vicinity. SOme of the land he used for APCOA-Airport Parking Company of America-the rest he sold for huge profits when the value of the land skyrocketed after the airport location was determined.

insider information through government offices at its best
 
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