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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    My wife started working the same year our youngest started first grade.....and it helped a lot. We put the kids thru college mostly on her income. But as far as working when you don't NEED to, why take a job that someone else NEEDS...?

    We both retired early, planned for it....we are still young enough to work, but choose not to, again, why take a job that someone else needs? Our jobs now are spending money to help boost the economy....
    What determines if you need a job? I think that that is subjective. Paris Hilton is pretty wealthy, but she took a job on TV, tried to be a singer, acted in some films, etc. Chelsea Clinton would have been fine not working at all, but she went to college and she works.

    As a woman, and since this conversation is about women, I would always want to work. If I marry a man capable of supporting me without the need to work, I'd still work because I want to make my own money. I don't want to be financially dependent on somebody else's money, nor would I always want to ask for permission before spending somebody else's money. It doesn't feel secure or safe to me, and especially not if there is a divorce and he doesn't want to pay me alimony. Where would that leave me?

    I personally think it's more financially wise of a woman to work and save some money for her self. It's more secure. You can't depend on another person to care for you and provide. A marriage could sour, end in divorce, your spouse could suddenly die, etc. Not having financial independence is risky.

    I'd rather invest my money and make my own financial decisions, rather than allow my husband to run my life and retirement with his money.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    That's sad - I see being able to be employed as a matter of self-reliance and independence, something to succeed at, feel good about and strive for - a privilidge to be employed . . . I haven't had a job in 9 years and I can't imagine just being stuck like this for the rest of my life - I'd want to just shoot myself.

    Obviously some people don't have issues being reliant on others for everything - and I have serious issues with that.
    And there is nothing wrong with the way you feel either. Some women don't want to be SAHM. I am not even a mom, but I wouldn't want to be a SAHM at all. My sister is one. I have helped her many days and have seen her in action... it's not for me. She has a job now, and her husband was controlling with money too. She wanted a job for a long time, and now she has one. Financial independence would eventually seem like something everybody would crave eventually.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Ann Romney has had several personal struggles with her health throughout her life while also raising 5 sons. If that's not considered hard work, I don't know what is. Money aside, her health problems beat the hell out of any struggles I've had so far in my life. Say what you want about her husband (the actual candidate) but there's no benefit in bashing the unelected family members of either Romney or Obama. I've met Michelle Obama and have actually had a relatively meaningful conversation with Ann Romney; both were nothing if not 100% friendly and sincere when I met them. The fact that both are so different shouldn't be derided, it should be celebrated; They are both outstanding American women and that diversity is a huge part of it.

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    Crazy talk...Different subject, but I find it's usually the people most disrespectful towards both candidates or any office holder that are the first to ask the rhetorical question "Why are kids so damn disrespectful these days?".
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    What determines if you need a job? I think that that is subjective. Paris Hilton is pretty wealthy, but she took a job on TV, tried to be a singer, acted in some films, etc. Chelsea Clinton would have been fine not working at all, but she went to college and she works.

    As a woman, and since this conversation is about women, I would always want to work. If I marry a man capable of supporting me without the need to work, I'd still work because I want to make my own money. I don't want to be financially dependent on somebody else's money, nor would I always want to ask for permission before spending somebody else's money. It doesn't feel secure or safe to me, and especially not if there is a divorce and he doesn't want to pay me alimony. Where would that leave me?

    I personally think it's more financially wise of a woman to work and save some money for her self. It's more secure. You can't depend on another person to care for you and provide. A marriage could sour, end in divorce, your spouse could suddenly die, etc. Not having financial independence is risky.

    I'd rather invest my money and make my own financial decisions, rather than allow my husband to run my life and retirement with his money.

    maybe this is the bigger issue for you?
    before my wife started working, she ran the household budget...I made the money, she spent it wisely. a good marriage is a partnership, there is no dominance involved.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    MS itself is a nightmare, whether you are raising kids or not. I used to play benefits to raise money for MS, and was a chili cookoff judge. Yes, I was certified to be a chili cookoff judge too. I donated a lot of time to this cause.

    Here's the deal. People need to lay off both Obama's wife and Romney's wife, and deal with the issues at hand. I know that this is difficult because both Romney and Obama have injected their wives into their campaigns, and some will say that makes them legitimate targets. But neither wife is a candidate for President of the United States either. That is where all the ****ing dishonesty comes in, and make no mistake about it - Talking heads for both sides are doing this crap. If the American people want to fall for this game, then they have no right at all to complain that their government is not working for them. After all, it was THEY who decided to go after family instead of giving a damn about the issues at hand.

    Just my 2 cents on the matter.
    The dumb thing about injecting their wives is like the result with Palin. Right now, Ann Romney is offended and going off on twitter and this is about Ann Romney. It's not about all women. I don't relate to this issue. This isn't going to sway women voters, because this isn't about women. A woman is a offended, another feels misunderstand... ok, milk it, whatever, it's not going to sway women voters.

    With Palin as VP, it was all about Palin and her treatment as a woman. The McCain campaign wasn't suddenly focusing on women, it just focused on Palin. This is the same result. They aren't talking to women or about women.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
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    maybe this is the bigger issue for you?
    before my wife started working, she ran the household budget...I made the money, she spent it wisely. a good marriage is a partnership, there is no dominance involved.
    Seems to me the comments were never meant to degrade her choice as a mother...but instead addressed Mitts comment that his wife was an economic voice to him. In that context...it does make sense.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
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    maybe this is the bigger issue for you?
    before my wife started working, she ran the household budget...I made the money, she spent it wisely. a good marriage is a partnership, there is no dominance involved.
    I don't think that it is a personal issue. As I said, it's risky to just depend on one person to support you. Anything can happen.. soured marriage, cheating, divorce, death, pernup, etc. Financial security involves having my own funds and my own foot in the economy. I don't know anybody could see it any differently. I would never willingly choose to never work a day in my life and choose to be supported completely by my husband.

    I also think it's kind of weird to buy somebody presents and gifts with their own money they earn, and I saw a woman's husband say it on the Real Housewives of OC once. I think he made her feel awful, but she stayed quiet cause that's her life line.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    A middle class woman raising 5 kids is a lot different from an extremely wealthy mother raising 5 kids. I used to watch the Real Housewives a lot, and all of them had nannies and maids. I really don't think it's the same. Wealthy mothers stay home and go to work for different reasons. It's never a issue of finding an affordable babysitter or having to stay home to save money, or being forced to miss work because of kid has a common, childhood illness. Some women would love to be a housewife, but the family needs two incomes. Some women would hate being a housewife, and that creates conflict in a marriage as well.

    I am not trying to talk bad about Ann Romney. All I am saying is that that there is a huge difference in being a housewife depending on a woman's economic status.
    Yes - good post. This really summarizes things really well.

    There's a HUGE difference between the woman who works as a waitress and has five kids and barely makes ends meet - and Ann Romney who was fortunate enough to marry someone who became a Senator and are quite well off while raising 5 kids.

    Regardless of what she's done with herself in the meantime - this is lightyears apart. Though she's involved with women on a daily basis - I don't think she can actively identify with what their life is in contrast. She might want to: doesn't mean she's ever experienced life in that same way.
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Yes - good post. This really summarizes things really well.

    There's a HUGE difference between the woman who works as a waitress and has five kids and barely makes ends meet - and Ann Romney who was fortunate enough to marry someone who became a Senator and are quite well off while raising 5 kids.

    Regardless of what she's done with herself in the meantime - this is lightyears apart. Though she's involved with women on a daily basis - I don't think she can actively identify with what their life is in contrast. She might want to: doesn't mean she's ever experienced life in that same way.
    Maybe; maybe not. Maybe moms have a lot more in common than what separates them. Consider, for example, Karen Santorum and what she has in common with other moms whose babies have trisomy 18. I don't think race or education or bank account matters when it comes to the big stuff.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

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    Really? Who is your president?
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