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Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

Enola said:
The board is called Debate Politics. But the other forums show differently. I didn't know I was supposed to be this big assed debater to be welcome here. Should I find another board, then?
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if you want to be taken seriously....
like was said, it is a debate forum, not an opinion forum....
 
Grant said:
Shall we now start on the daughters of Barrack and Michelle Obama, or do the Republicans have too much class for this sort of thing?
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If Obama comes out and claims that, for example, Sasha and Malia have informed his views on counterterrorism in Sub Saharan Africa, I think it would be appropriate to question what Sasha and Malia's expertise is vis a vis terrorism in Sub Saharan Africa. :shrug:
 
UtahBill said:
but none of this is anything you know on your own....you don't know her personally, you are just taking sides based on your own prejudices....
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Just like you are when you choose who to vote for, right?
 
UtahBill said:
if you want to be taken seriously....
like was said, it is a debate forum, not an opinion forum....
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So I am to debate the food topics as well, eh?
 
You know what? may be I'm simple or I don't know what, but frankly, I would not give a fig if Ann Romney work or didn't work in her whole wide life!:shrug:
 
Mya said:
You know what? may be I'm simple or I don't know what, but frankly, I would not give a fig if Ann Romney work or didn't work in her whole wide life!:shrug:
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Nah. I'm the simple one.:lamo
 
Grant said:
And despite it being your error all the way you called the other poster a "liar"in the process, just as you did here. You were "confused" in that instance but other posters are "liars".

I guess it doesn't matter in the long term. You are who you are.
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Yep, and I apologized for that. OTOH, I can't imagine how someone could copy and paste a paragraph from a right wing blog and mistakenly think that he's copied it from the Los Angeles Times website -- while conspicuously failing to provide a link. He did provide a link to his previous reference (American Thinker! :lol: ). And of course this is the young man who runs around claiming that I'M dishonest in every other post, so ... live by the sword, die by the sword.
 
Enola said:
Just like you are when you choose who to vote for, right?
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I vote based on the candidates liklihood of solving the important problems, like the economy, not the trivial crap being discussed here....
 
UtahBill said:
I vote based on the candidates liklihood of solving the important problems, like the economy, not the trivial crap being discussed here....
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Good for you. I do it my way, you do it yours.
 
Enola said:
Nah. I'm the simple one.:lamo
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Nooo way you are not :) ........... but if Anne Romney worked or not what do I care???? It's ok by me! lucky her!:mrgreen:;)
 
Mya said:
Nooo way you are not :) ........... but if Anne Romney worked or not what do I care???? It's ok by me! lucky her!:mrgreen:;)
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I hear ya on the lucky part.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Not really - all of her kids are grown: why isn't she employed now? Is it considered a sin in their eyes to find employment when you're a woman?

I think it actually brings up some significant questions - our government is suppose to foster equality and freedom and further the belief that women have a right to work and should find employment as it suits their needs in their life. Does Romney believe that women have a right to work or are we going to see hints of male-favoritism as we did during the Great Depression if the government tries to step in to help with employment issues and exludes [sic] women in the process if he's in office?

I don't think it's wrong to be a stay at home mom: I am one.

But at some point you stop being a stay at home mom - their youngets child was born in 1981, making him one year younger than me. . . she is no longer a stay at home mom for her children - that is no longer her description in life and does not account for their actual beliefs at present.

What does she do - if anything - with all these years she's had? Where does he fall in his beliefs? If we bring the President's career choices and his wife's career choices into question (yes - I was here last election: I remmeber [sic] all of that quite clearly and it wasn't all a negative issue) then why can't we question this and what it reflects on them as people of this country.

I have a serious problem with a grown capable woman who does not find employment - ever. My husband's mother is one and she's lowly in my view: living freely and welloff on the hard work of others and has done nothing to earn anything for herself. It is a questionable existance [sic]: it's wealthy laziness.
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My wife currently has a part time job outside the home, but for a very large part of our marriage, she has not had any outside job.

I have a job that is very demanding on me, and leaves me with little time or energy to manage the rest of my life. Without all the work that my wife does to manage our household, I just wouldn't be able to do it.

Your attitude is insulting and offensive to women such as my wife, who do a great deal of work, to help run a household, and to provide the support that their husbands need in order to meet their obligations. Just because she may not be working outside the home, in a job that pays an income, certainly does not mean that a woman is lazy, that she does no work, or that her efforts are not very valuable to her family.
 
Ann Romney gave a gracious rebuttal, and Hillary Rosen apologized for her remarks. Is that enough, or will this little incident metastasize & eventually help kill someone's campaign?
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
That's sad - I see being able to be employed as a matter of self-reliance and independence, something to succeed at, feel good about and strive for - a privilidge [sic] to be employed . . . I haven't had a job in 9 years and I can't imagine just being stuck like this for the rest of my life - I'd want to just shoot myself.

Obviously some people don't have issues being reliant on others for everything - and I have serious issues with that.
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It sounds like you have some serious personal issues, which you are projecting on to women in general. Or perhaps you just don't get the point of marriage.

I am the one in my marriage who brings in the vast majority of financial income. My wife brings in a small amount, from a part-time job, but it is my income that makes it possible to keep a roof over our head and food in our stomachs. My wife's job allows us to enjoy a few little extra luxuries that we otherwise might not, and keeps her from being cooped up at home all the time.

So yes, my wife is dependent on me. But it doesn't just go in one direction.

My job, as I said, is very demanding. It simply would not be within my ability to hold down this job, and also to manage all the various other aspects of our lives, making sure that the bills get paid on time, the shopping gets done, laundry, household cleaning and maintenance, and so on. As dependent as my wife is on me to bring in the income that makes everything possible, I am no less dependent on her to manage all these other details that make everything possible.

It's not two separate individuals, each trapped in some dependency on the other—it's a team of two people, jointly managing our lives in a way that works much better than either of us would be able to manage separately.
 
SheWolf said:
A lot of women are not going to relate to Ann Romney which is going to be The Problem, as opposed to pondering if it's a personal or character problem of Ann's for not having actually worked.
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Right...because so many women 'relate' to Mobama...or for that matter Laura Bush. Or Hillary.

What is it with this sudden message about 'relating'? How many people can 'relate to an elitist that never had to 'work' to find a job...who's wife was gifted a job at a hospital where she didnt have to do ****...a job that didnt exist prior to her being given the job and hasnt been filled since? How many people can 'relate' to the rich democrats in congress or their wives? Its a line people are being fed and they are swallowing it. You think people can 'relate to multiple vacations a year, to sending your 12 year old to a foreign country for 'spring break' for Gods sake?
 
Parrish said:
Someone said that Ann Romney was demonized. I disagree. She was just exposed as a woman who really doesn't get what most women experience on a daily basis.

Yes, being a stay at home parent is work but she never had to juggle raising her children, hold down a job, and have the worries that a working parent goes through 24/7.

I think most reasonable people knew what Hilary Rosen was talking about.
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Because you 'relate' so well to MO...right?
 
Enola said:
To be the devils advocate for a sec.....how can someone describe chocolate if they never tasted it?
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Ever had leprosy? Feel like you have to have had it to know it sucks? And again...PLEASE tell me you 'relate' with MO. Like...Im sure MOST people you know can relate to someone who is given a board position at a hospital for a few hundred k a year...a job that didnt exist prior to it being created for you and hasnt been filled since. That happens to MOST people I know.
 
VanceMack said:
Ever had leprosy? Feel like you have to have had it to know it sucks? And again...PLEASE tell me you 'relate' with MO. Like...Im sure MOST people you know can relate to someone who is given a board position at a hospital for a few hundred k a year...a job that didnt exist prior to it being created for you and hasnt been filled since. That happens to MOST people I know.
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I am wishing it happens to me.
 
Blue_State said:
I am wishing it happens to me.
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Hey...so is that engineer in Texas who's wife talked on the phone to Obama...the one that Obama said he was sure he could find a job for him because they are hiring engineers left and right. Except...not so much.
 
VanceMack said:
Hey...so is that engineer in Texas who's wife talked on the phone to Obama...the one that Obama said he was sure he could find a job for him because they are hiring engineers left and right. Except...not so much.
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I thought the story on that is that the guy got a lot of job offers and didn't take any of them. I wasn't really following it, but I was under the impression that he was basically going through the motions to look for a job and that he didn't accept one.
 
iliveonramen said:
And that's fine..there's nothing wrong with someone staying home to take care of the kids. I'm sure if more families could afford they would choose that route.....

But Rosen is right...if your indicator on what policies are important to women is based on things your wife said...she represents a very very very small sliver of what most women deal with. It's a fact. Just like Mitt Romney almost has no inkling of what most Americans go through daily or in life.
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Oh sure, he bases ALL of what he knows about working woman from what his wife tells him. He ignores everything else he knows, what his advisors tell him, what is prudent makes poicy based on what his wife says. I love how people play dumb and think they can get away with making a point. Every president talks about their wife on the campaign trail and tries to give them kudos for raising their kids, or whatever, saying trivial things like "I'll have to ask the boss", etc., It means nothing to policy. Give it a rest.
 
VanceMack said:
Ever had leprosy? Feel like you have to have had it to know it sucks? And again...PLEASE tell me you 'relate' with MO. Like...Im sure MOST people you know can relate to someone who is given a board position at a hospital for a few hundred k a year...a job that didnt exist prior to it being created for you and hasnt been filled since. That happens to MOST people I know.
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Do you think the only way people can relate to each other is through having similar jobs?
 
Grant said:
Yes, i believe that's what happened and I would certainly give anyone the benefit of any doubt before I called them a liar.

In fact it is you who are the liar, and we both know it.
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Its typical of some-the article cited the times. He cannot refute the facts.
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Redress said:
Rather than read over 350 posts...can some one explain why I should care whether Ann Romney has worked or not?
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You shouldn't. Conservatives picked up on a random statement by some CNN commentator and made into a big issue that doesn't matter since it has nothing to do with how Romney or Obama will do if elected/re-elected.
 
AdamT said:
Is that right? You mean she didn't get into Princeton because Daddy and Mummy went there? Not really. Her dad worked at the water plant and her mom was a secretary. In highschool, "she was on the honor roll for four years, took advanced placement classes, was a member of the National Honor Society and served as student council treasurer. Obama graduated in 1981 as the salutatorian of her class [hint: that means she graduated second in her class]." She graduated cum laude from Princeton, which is probably good enough to get into Harvard Law, given her other activities, whether or not she was black.

Now let's see, Ann's father was wealthy businessman and he sent her to private schools. She graduated from highschool, apparently without honors, and then from BYU, apparently without honors.

Hmm, hard to decide which is the more impressive woman.... :lol:
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The thing is, some people look at Mrs. Obama and see a well-educated black woman and say, "She couldn't have possibly done it on her own," so they concoct some story that runs contrary to evidence in order to discredit her. Shame, really.
 
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