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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    You believe everyone should pay more. I believe those that think like you should set the standard/example and start the ball rolling.

    If you can't see your way to doing that then you're not a "true believer", you're just another another person who wants to put the hand in my pocket.
    He clearly thinks we need even more government and that government needs even more money.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Gosh. First one must debate in order to post here (this includes debating the food topics, sex topics, movie topics, bar game topics, etc), then one must conform to one set of beliefs and never have a change of mind or learn something they may have never considered otherwise they are bouncing around on whims. Someone needs to put that in the rules so folks know whether DP is the place for them.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    I mean everyone. No one gets out of paying taxes. No matter how poor or rich. Agree?
    No, there still has to be a point at which we say they cannot pay taxes. You seriously think someone can afford to give away $3k in federal taxes if they make 10k a year (Even 15k although I don't know where we should draw the line)?
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Are you kidding me? Under your logic it is also a good idea to toss money out the window hoping that a government employee will stumble upon it and give it to the respective person. That would be the same thing as one person, and I mean one, paying 100 bucks extra on their taxes, hell, even a thousand, a million....


    I thought so. You Libbys talk the talk. And the taxpayer is the stiff that gets the shaft for all the Libby do gooders.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    Gosh. First one must debate in order to post here (this includes debating the food topics, sex topics, movie topics, bar game topics, etc), then one must conform to one set of beliefs and never have a change of mind or learn something they may have never considered otherwise they are bouncing around on whims. Someone needs to put that in the rules so folks know whether DP is the place for them.
    I changed my mind Enola...

    Although you are 100% correct. I am currently being attacked for "changing my mind to often"...
    Last edited by Jryan; 04-14-12 at 04:03 PM.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy the Kid View Post
    I thought so. You Libbys talk the talk. And the taxpayer is the stiff that gets the shaft for all the Libby do gooders.
    I will be a libby do gooder until you stop your war on the poor.
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    I changed my mind Enola...
    But...but...that is not allowed, Jyran. You must debate your set of beliefs not matter how mundane and you must be FIRM. No wishy washy stuff by learning a new mindset and agreeing with it, hence changing your mind. (Said with sarcasm).

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    That is beyond stupid

    the rich pay a higher rate on any progressive tax on like income. So stop the lying. The rich pay far more actual tax dollars than the middle class. The TOP FIVE PERCENT PAY MORE FEDERAL INCOME TAX DOLLARS than the rest of country combined

    You should be careful when you spew crap like that and tell people they need to think more

    what you have confused is that fact that some people who have Upper middle class rates of earned income and who also pay right at the very top of the FICA cutoff might have higher effective total federal "tax" rates over some billionaires who only have UNEARNED income (ie a DIFFERENT TYPE OF INCOME) in the form of capital gains.

    finding someone who has a higher EFFECTIVE RATE than the 15% effective rate most billionaires with only investment income pay who is still in the middle class is rather tough.

    and rates are not the same as actual tax dollars.

    while Romney only pays an EFFECTIVE RATE that is higher than 97% of America his actual tax payments put him in the top .05 percent
    In our economic system the most efficient way to insure growth is to tax income NOT spent at a higher rate. Not only does it not affect consumer spending but it actually helps growth by getting money back into circulation that would otherwise be lost to the economy. The rich alway have the option of using that excess income to invest in their business if they don't want to give it to Uncle Sam. Either way it is better than them just socking it away for a rainy day. Why do you think the FED has had to print so much money since the crash? There is not enough money in circulation to service a healthy economy.
    Last edited by iguanaman; 04-14-12 at 04:05 PM.

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    He clearly thinks we need even more government and that government needs even more money.
    Do you just read one post that responded to me, disregard the rest of the thread, and then write a response attacking liberals but using me as an example?
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
    -Jryan

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    Re: Ann Romney Never Worked a Day In Her Life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    I will be a libby do gooder until you stop your war on the poor.
    You do know what seperates the "libby do gooders" from the rest of the do gooders, right?
    The libbys want govt to pay for it.....
    The govt doens't have enough money to take care of us all.

    But you be sure and get a good job after college, and pay into Social Security so I can continue to get my monthly check, OK?
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