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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I'm not about to start guessing at what a leftist means.

    Someone on this thread said words have meanings. Why not say exactly what you mean without the usual leftist hyperbole and, as well, you should also use the quote system.
    You really have no idea how ironic that is, coming from you, do you?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    OK. How many mass graves have American liberals dug? How many killing sprees have Democrats gone on?
    The question was: What do you despise about communism? Why are you asking me about American liberals when I was answering your question about communism?

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    The question was: What do you despise about communism? Why are you asking me about American liberals when I was answering your question about communism?
    It has to do with the context of the thread. The whole point of that branch of the discussion was that some in this thread were equating all "leftism" or "liberalism" with communism. The original question -- the one you responded to -- was intended for Grant.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's not a guess. In fact it's a number derived from the most optimistic source availiable -- the revisionist historian who is trying to make the case that McCarthy was really a great guy.
    Well, no. He was as bad as he sounds. But he was right. There were Soviet spies in the State Department. I believe there were also Soviet spies in the White House during FDR's time.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I'm willing to bet there are still spies.
    Hard to say. After Hoover, there were a few bad leaders, and then they had a massive clearing of the house, which included known spies. Who knows. After the crash in 1990, the Russian government couldn't really afford to carry out the types of covert ops they had before. That last spy ring, was arguably the most pathetic yet. There was more interest in that one girls facebook page, than what information they got, assuming that got anything.

    Russia just doesn't have the wide spread left-tard support they had back in the day. Something about ruining your country until people were eating each other for lack of food, seems to sour people on your ideology.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's not a guess. In fact it's a number derived from the most optimistic source availiable -- the revisionist historian who is trying to make the case that McCarthy was really a great guy.
    I don't give a crap if he helped old ladies cross the street, and returned dimes he found on the street to the people who dropped them.

    He could be as much of a jerk as Al Gore, or as crazy as Charlie Sheen.

    Back to the point... HE WAS RIGHT. I'm going to keep saying this over and over until the end of time. You can bring up all the blaw blaw blaw you want, you are still wrong, and McCarthy was STILL RIGHT.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkles View Post
    I don't give a crap if he helped old ladies cross the street, and returned dimes he found on the street to the people who dropped them.

    He could be as much of a jerk as Al Gore, or as crazy as Charlie Sheen.

    Back to the point... HE WAS RIGHT. I'm going to keep saying this over and over until the end of time. You can bring up all the blaw blaw blaw you want, you are still wrong, and McCarthy was STILL RIGHT.
    a broken clock is right twice aday too......

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    OK. How many mass graves have American liberals dug? How many killing sprees have Democrats gone on?
    You are missing the point. No communist regime ever had "mass graves" as part of their fundamental belief system.

    It's not like Chairman Mao, wrote out his plan for China and had entry 5 "mass graves for half of China".

    Instead, death is the natural result of socialism. it's simply the automatic end to the path of destruction paved with good intentions.

    Look at Mao's great leap forward. Even Mao could see clearly that China was falling far behind the four Asian tigers around them, and it was embarrassing. So he tried to institute the great leap forward.

    Do you think Mao was sitting there writing "mass graves" on his to do list? No, obviously not. But the results of the new communes, new government projects, and other programs was a huge famine that killed off 45 Million Chinese.

    Why do you think there is a lack of food in North Korea, when South Korea is a boom economy?
    North Korea faces famine: 'Tell the world we are starving' - Telegraph

    People are dying there from starvation, while people in South Korea have McDonalds.


    Why? It's real simple. Socialism kills.
    Every time you follow socialism to it's natural end, you'll end up with people dying.



    Let's see.... Capitalist system with the highest survival rate, or socialized care, with a lower survival rate?

    The pattern repeats itself consistency over history and across nations. It's universal.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/wo...y-staples.html
    By 6:30 a.m., a full hour and a half before the store would open, about two dozen people were already in line. They waited patiently, not for the latest iPhone, but for something far more basic: groceries.

    “Whatever I can get,” said Katherine Huga, 23, a mother of two, describing her shopping list. She gave a shrug of resignation. “You buy what they have.”

    Venezuela is one of the world’s top oil producers at a time of soaring energy prices, yet shortages of staples like milk, meat and toilet paper are a chronic part of life here, often turning grocery shopping into a hit or miss proposition.
    Again, leftism at work. No milk. No meat. Not even toilet paper. Can't eat, can't live.

    Do you think Chavez was up in the government house thinking "I want to starve my people to death". No, he was simply following the basic philosophy of the left, and it's hurting people, as it always does.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    a broken clock is right twice aday too......
    Yet another admission of failure. If that's the best you can do, you fail. Thanks for stopping by.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkles View Post
    Why? It's real simple. Socialism kills.
    Every time you follow socialism to it's natural end, you'll end up with people dying.



    Let's see.... Capitalist system with the highest survival rate, or socialized care, with a lower survival rate?

    The pattern repeats itself consistency over history and across nations. It's universal.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/wo...y-staples.html


    Again, leftism at work. No milk. No meat. Not even toilet paper. Can't eat, can't live.

    Do you think Chavez was up in the government house thinking "I want to starve my people to death". No, he was simply following the basic philosophy of the left, and it's hurting people, as it always does.
    Way to cherry pick the data. Is there a reason you didn't look at, say, infant mortality ... where the US ranks 34th -- one place behind Cuba?

    List of countries by infant mortality rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

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