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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Karl Marx also saw society as a class struggle between social collectives. You have more in common with him than you could ever admit to yourself.
    I'm really not interested in your opinions of me, and expect few others are either, but am here instead to debate the issues of the day. Can you do that?

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkles View Post
    Typical leftism. Make up stuff, then claim the other side "hates" something, and really don't address any of the points made. Congrats on another typically useless leftist post.
    Hey! Watch that attitude! He says he is only slightly leftist. So maybe he only occasionally sides with America's enemies. LOL.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    so in other words, you have no clue to what you are talking about. Thank you for your concession Con.

    You have no clue what Socialism means, you have no clue what the left does or does not believe and you have no clue what I (as part of the left) believe.

    You're dismissed.
    Dere's a wwho' lotta dis-missin' goin' on out heah!

    LOL.

    It is actually easy to know what the left believes. It believes very little. But is sure does feel. Socialism is a very bad thing even if one has not read everything Radical Karl ever wrote. It is antithetical to freedom. It inevitably must lead to tyranny--first soft. Then harder. If you are on the left you are in the wrong. History is on your side though. For the most part human history has been that of the brute and tyrant lording over the masses. The funny part is how many on the left believe they should be the lords.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    You can't reason with people like Grant and Sparkles.

    It's just not possible.

    They're still stuck in Cold War Era Red Scare mentality.

    They have yet to know it's 2012.
    Hey! You forgot me!

    We know that socialism leads to uniformity and misery.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    corporations have been able to do this thanks to conservative values. Who gives more breaks towards corporations to abuse this? Answer.....Republicans and conservatives.
    Hmmm. Quandary. What does conservatism have to do with corporations?

    Conservatives want constitutionally limited governments that are no bigger that they must be to fulfill their Constitutional obligations. I might have missed the word "corporation" in the Constitution. Would you please show me where it is found and give me some of the context?

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Perhaps you could point out the leftists who are openly commending communism, just to clear up any confusion about your claim.
    None openly do. At least not in polite company. The real difficulty lies in living the lie in your daily lives. Tourettes syndrome of the left has you screaming out "Tax the rich! Tax the rich!" even when what you really meant to say was "Would you please pass me the butter."

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    The problem with the way you try to associate certain ideas with an overall philosophy is very intellectually dishonest.

    Just because one for example may support a progressive tax, does not mean that they support the overall philosophy of Communism.

    To say that is at dishonest as saying that if you like facial hair, and Hitler liked facial hair, well that makes you a Nazi.
    It is Marxism that lays the foundations for capitalism's destruction in the steeply progressive income tax. If one cannot accumulate capital there will be no capitalism. And no jobs for that matter. Yay! We can all be good little, poor, equal communists now.

    If your beliefs contain the seeds of destruction for the system you live within, the system that has provided greater wealth for more people than any other every devised, including socialism, why shouldn't you carry the label of socialist, Marxist, or Communist? And for that matter why not traitor?
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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Because Communists are evil correct?

    Sounds like a rebirth of the Mccarthy era to me.

    The only reputation he's damaged is his own, perhaps Mr West should avoid making such idiotic claims in the future to avoid any future embarrassment.
    Are you going to deny that there were communists in the govt at that time? It's a proven fact.
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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Karl Marx also saw society as a class struggle between social collectives. You have more in common with him than you could ever admit to yourself.
    But I don't see society as being a class struggle. In fact, I don't believe in class at all.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Are you going to deny that there were communists in the govt at that time? It's a proven fact.
    I find that unbelievable that so many still are ignorant that McCarthy was completely right. There were spies in the State Department. Hello... THERE WERE SPIES IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT. McFly! IT IS A PROVEN FACT.

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