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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    He was wrong a hell of a lot more than he was right. Even the revisionist historian who's trying to vindicate McCarthy only claims that nine of the 159 people he investigated were actually involved with the Soviets.

    And of course McCarthy isn't the only one who was looking into espionage activity. Many say that McCarthy actually harmed the effort to unearth Soviet spies because he turned the whole thing into a partisan witch hunt.

    There's a reason he's one of the most reviled politicians in American history.
    If that were true, that just 9 out of 159 were spying for a foreign government (the most murderous in world history btw) how many Nazi spies do you think should have been allowed? Or Fascist spies?

    Since this successful infiltration by the Communists into the workings of the American government it has been an American tradition among the left, and it is repeating itself today, that when it comes to taking sides between enemies against America, and American citizens, they will side with the enemy.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No what was counter productive was the Democrats demanding that McCarthy "name names" even before a serious investigation was underway. In fact they are doing the same thing now with Allen West, before any investigation has even begun.

    The Hidden Truth About Joseph McCarthy
    There isn't going to be any investigation into West's insane accusation, because it is patently insane.

    McCarthy was a shameless publicity hound and self promoter who ruined hundreds of lives for no reason.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Since this successful infiltration by the Communists into the workings of the American government it has been an American tradition among the left, and it is repeating itself today, that when it comes to taking sides between enemies against America, and American citizens, they will side with the enemy.
    Yep, I served in the Army for 20 years because I sided with the enemy

    What ridiculous nonsense you spew and only shows how clueless you really are. It must suck to be you when you are filled with so much hate. Oh but you're just a fuzzy foreigner so it doesn't really matter.
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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    There isn't going to be any investigation into West's insane accusation, because it is patently insane.
    Yes, that's what was said about Joe McCarthy until the Venona papers revealed he was correct. Like all Leftists you don't know whether these charges are correct or not (though perhaps you do and just deny) but you do want to vilify anyone who would make the accusation. It's all ad hominem, which has been the Leftist MO since the Communists took charge in Russia.
    McCarthy was a shameless publicity hound and self promoter who ruined hundreds of lives for no reason.
    Yes, here we go again, despite his being right.

    Hundreds of lives? Really? In fact hundreds of lives were not ruined, and the publicity surrounding his charges deserved publicity. This is just more leftist hyperbole and denial. Having communist spies in the highest levels of the American government and working for a foreign government, is no small matter. Particularly when that government was the most murderous in the history of mankind.

    And no reason?

    We already know there were communist spies and sympathizers in the government and positions of power. Was it not a good idea to point this out?

    It seems you are not only unfamiliar with American history but Communist history as well.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yep, I served in the Army for 20 years because I sided with the enemy
    I have no idea who you are.

    What ridiculous nonsense you spew and only shows how clueless you really are. It must suck to be you when you are filled with so much hate. Oh but you're just a fuzzy foreigner so it doesn't really matter.
    Hate? Who do I hate?

    I easily shrug off ad hominem attacks because they always and unfailing represent an inferior intelligence.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You're missing a few important points (and saying "well duh" which makes you sound like an idiot): one -- the FBI was already investigating communist espionage. McCarthy's efforts were counterproductive. And two, by putting on a dog and pony show, McCarthy ruined the lives of hundreds of innocent people.
    But the FBI couldn't really do anything about it, because the only direct evidence was the decoded cables. The problem there was, by using the evidence, the Soviets would know we cracked the cables, and thus would change their encoding. This is why they encouraged McCarthy to investigate.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    There isn't going to be any investigation into West's insane accusation, because it is patently insane.

    McCarthy was a shameless publicity hound and self promoter who ruined hundreds of lives for no reason.
    You still can't name one can you?

    Well we disagree. I don't think his claim is insane, anymore than McCarthy's claim was insane.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yep, I served in the Army for 20 years because I sided with the enemy

    What ridiculous nonsense you spew and only shows how clueless you really are. It must suck to be you when you are filled with so much hate. Oh but you're just a fuzzy foreigner so it doesn't really matter.
    Typical leftism. Make up stuff, then claim the other side "hates" something, and really don't address any of the points made. Congrats on another typically useless leftist post.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkles View Post
    Typical leftism. Make up stuff, then claim the other side "hates" something, and really don't address any of the points made. Congrats on another typically useless leftist post.

    Typcial conservative, make up generalizations about the entire left without any proof to back it up.

    You are about as Fair and Balanced as Saddam Hussein was.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkles View Post
    You still can't name one can you?

    Well we disagree. I don't think his claim is insane, anymore than McCarthy's claim was insane.
    The list is long, but you can start with Robert Oppenheimer -- the brilliant physicist and leader of the Manhattan Project.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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