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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    As if electing McCain would have prevented this.

    *Sarcastic tone*

    Besides, the man is o-l-d. What would we have done if he had dropped dead?

    Seceded?
    This is a thread about West and Commies and Socialist scum. DOH !

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

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    **** the Swiss. Let them try running the world's only superpower, with a population 1,000xs larger than theirs, and not every inch of it landscaped and decorated by a fairy godmother.[/QUOTE]

    Actually America is, like the USSR, a former Superpower. They frighten no one anymore and none take them seriously. Can't even defeat a ragtag bunch of Afghanistanis.

    The last generation of Americans weren't all that interested in winning "the hearts and minds" of the nazis or fascists. Nor did they insist on withdrawal dates before the job was done.

    The present generation are a lot of wusses, with the military now being as politically correct as any leftist nerd in the DC bureaucracy.
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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    **** the Swiss. Let them try running the world's only superpower, with a population 1,000xs larger than theirs, and not every inch of it landscaped and decorated by a fairy godmother.[/QUOTE]

    Actually America is, like the USSR, a former Superpower. They frighten no one anymore and none take them seriously. Can't even defeat a ragtag bunch of Afghanistanis.

    The last generation of Americans weren't all that interested in winning "the hearts and minds" of the nazis or fascists. Nor did they insist on withdrawal dates before the job was done.

    The present generation are a lot of wusses, with the military now being as politically correct as any leftist nerd in the DC bureaucracy.[/QUOTE]

    Do you think defeating the Afghanistanis is actually our mission or great interest?

    I don't.
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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    I realize the saber rattlers long for a world menace enemy to justify a huge 'defense' budget. I understand they think a sinister enemy helps pull us together, or at least allows for the stifling of opposition by making opposition an act of sedition, or even treason.

    But Afghanistan isn't Europe and al-Queera/Taliwackers are not Nazis and Japanese storm troopers.

    So calling this generation wussies and other crap is asinine right wing lunacy.

    The greatest Generation was drafted, we don't draft anymore mainly because it is difficult to dress up our conflicts these days as defending American freedom rather than American market share.

    Col. West will sink back into the backround noise soon enough, seems a regular parade of odd attacks come out only to sink back under once real news breaks.

    Well every where but debate websites it seems...

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists


    Do you think defeating the Afghanistanis is actually our mission or great interest?

    I don't.
    It is of great interest to others because you committed to a war and then failed at it. You think that will go unnoticed elsewhere?

    Whether you feel it was worthwhile or not is quite beside the point. You enter a war to win it, not just to have a few thousand people killed on either side and then leave with the situation unresolved. That's for third world soccer wars and is not the act of a ""Superpower".

    Barack Obama's comment about "leading from behind" coupled with his world apology tours certainly didn't contribute to any thoughts of America as a country of Superpower status either.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Grant-
    That's a tired long disproved excuse for sacrificing more troops and money to a doomed cause. What will be noticed is we recognize a losing situation and stop the bleeding. What others 'learn' from our withdrawal is no matter the lives spent, money spent, time spent, Afghanistan doesn't like outsiders.

    Course if we weren't so arrogant and cocksure we could have read that in most any other nation's history starting with Alexander the Great...

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I mentioned the Swiss but did not say they were exclusive. Use quotes.



    I don't have any big problems and don't owe any money. The Swiss are doing better than the Obamaified Americans though and that was the point you seem to have missed.




    Did you read the document, how it is and was implemented and how it works? Did you also happen to see their employments figures, the national debt, their annual budgets? How does any of that compare with the Obama Administration?
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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

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    Grant-
    That's a tired long disproved excuse for sacrificing more troops and money to a doomed cause.
    And why was it a "doomed cause"?

    What will be noticed is we recognize a losing situation and stop the bleeding.
    And everyone else in the world noticed this "losing situation" as well.
    What others 'learn' from our withdrawal is no matter the lives spent, money spent, time spent, Afghanistan doesn't like outsiders.
    No, what everyone else has learned, since the Korean War in fact, is that Americans cannot win wars. They don't have the stomach for it. They would rather be liked than right.
    Course if we weren't so arrogant and cocksure we could have read that in most any other nation's history starting with Alexander the Great...
    Americans are decent people and not near as "arrogant and cocksure" as they fancy themselves to be, at least not in recent years. They have become full of self doubt, self recriminations, etc. and will go through similar turmoils other failed powers have undergone. The transition from the British Superpower to the American Superpower was a seamless one. Who's next in line is still an open question, but there will be pretenders, that's certain.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    In a single word: YES.

    To address it further..... so far as I'm concerned ANYONE who promotes social and/or progressive programs/ideals beyond the direct scope of the US Constitution is a Socialist (if they believe in the programs) and a Communist (if they believe the government should run those programs).
    Looks like America has alot of socialists running around.
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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    A serious claim like that requires evidence. Without proof he may as well say 81 NAZIs are in Congress.

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