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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The point remains that just because progressive taxation is a pillar of communism (a debatable point to begin with), doesn't mean that progressive taxation is inherently or uniquely socialist. I think that was the takeaway.
    Radical Karl understood that one cannot move a nation to socialism without the capital formation wrecking influence of a steeply progressive income tax. That is the purpose of the steeply progressive income tax. It prevents or it hinders the accumulation of capital. If one makes it a pillar of one's society then that society is on its way to socialism. Anything else is just discussion about how long it will take for us to get there. Tax the rich anybody? Who needs a job anyway. If the government wants me to have a job they will give me one, right?

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Mixed economy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    So history is not your only weak subject.
    Redress, you are the one who is wrong. Early America did not have a strong regulatory oversight over businesses. We did not have two and a half million busy-body bureaucrats dreaming idiotic rules and regulations to harass, confound and harry every business doing everything until quite recently.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually many things on the list of things qualify. I don't have to revise history to fit my ideology.
    You say that. But that is exactly what you did.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Because Communists are evil correct?
    Correct. Communists are evil. Their fellow-travelers, the enablers, are also evil.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    McCarthy was a drunk and a trouble maker..
    McCarthy was also right. Ouch!

    Senator Joe McCarthy was a lout, generally speaking. But he was on the right side of history and, in a broad sense, of morality as well. If, in some sort of parallel-universe exercise, the same number of (now proven) Soviet-Communist spies, collaborators, sympathizers, and the like were somehow switched to Nazis, and McCarthy went after them with the same vehemence as he went after Reds, Joe McCarthy might well have universities and foundations named after him today.

    Two Cheers For “McCarthyism”? - Jonah Goldberg - National Review Online

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    WHAT a dumbass. This is illogical and makes as much sense as claiming 81 Congresscritters are Pod People.

    Did he waive around a list no one will ever get to see, too?

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    McCarthy was also right. Ouch!

    Senator Joe McCarthy was a lout, generally speaking. But he was on the right side of history and, in a broad sense, of morality as well. If, in some sort of parallel-universe exercise, the same number of (now proven) Soviet-Communist spies, collaborators, sympathizers, and the like were somehow switched to Nazis, and McCarthy went after them with the same vehemence as he went after Reds, Joe McCarthy might well have universities and foundations named after him today.

    Two Cheers For “McCarthyism”? - Jonah Goldberg - National Review Online
    McCarthy was a liar, a power-hungry jackass who blackmailed, extorted, defamed, spit upon and disgraced this nation and its citizens.

    A closeted homosexual who drove many homosexuals he outted to suicide. If this is a man you admire, there are others like him. Joseph Stalin should appeal even more.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Correct. Communists are evil. Their fellow-travelers, the enablers, are also evil.
    Do you also believe in unicorns? There are no Communists because Communism is a defunct political system that has never, ever worked in any nation on Planet Earth and never will.

    And you can shove that "Communists are evil" crap right up your ass. Many members of the early 20th century American Labor Movement were Communists or sympathizers...including my parents.

    Wanting a better country, one that does not oppress the working man, does not mean anyone is less patriotic than the fascists who are currently in favor with the GOP.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Alright j-mac

    I concede that a progressive system of taxation is one demand that Karl Marx makes in the Communist Manifesto. However, it is SHORT-TERM demand to facilitate the transition to a true communist (stateless and classless) society. The implementation of the above 10 demands was meant as PRECURSOR to communism, not true communism itself.

    Regardless, the point remains that just because a country implements a system of progressive taxation doesn't make it inherently Communist. As spud said, that's like saying any country with a strong military or sense of nationalism is fascist.
    Nonsense. Two different things totally. One thing you must admit that in this time of Obama, things have definitely swung hard to the left.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Do you also believe in unicorns? There are no Communists because Communism is a defunct political system that has never, ever worked in any nation on Planet Earth and never will.

    And you can shove that "Communists are evil" crap right up your ass. Many members of the early 20th century American Labor Movement were Communists or sympathizers...including my parents.

    Wanting a better country, one that does not oppress the working man, does not mean anyone is less patriotic than the fascists who are currently in favor with the GOP.

    Alinsky is so easy to see.


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