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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Perhaps to establish some credibility and ensure us that he isn't talking out of his ***, although it'd be pretty hard to convince objective people otherwise at this point given his history of spouting off absolute nonsense at a furious rate.
    And ruin many careers in the process? Why?

    His charges should be investigated by a special committee to see if there is any truth to them. Then after an extensive investigation the results should be made public.

    Allen West might well suffer the consequences by making false statements or some of these people might well be of the far left. But there is no point in damaging people's reputations in order to see whether Allen West is telling the truth or not. We should have learned that by now.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And ruin many careers in the process? Why?

    His charges should be investigated by a special committee to see if there is any truth to them. Then after an extensive investigation the results should be made public.

    Allen West might well suffer the consequences by making false statements or some of these people might well be of the far left. But there is no point in damaging people's reputations in order to see whether Allen West is telling the truth or not. We should have learned that by now.
    Because Communists are evil correct?

    Sounds like a rebirth of the Mccarthy era to me.

    The only reputation he's damaged is his own, perhaps Mr West should avoid making such idiotic claims in the future to avoid any future embarrassment.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Perhaps to establish some credibility and ensure us that he isn't talking out of his ***, although it'd be pretty hard to convince objective people otherwise at this point given his history of spouting off absolute nonsense at a furious rate.
    So, just so I have this straight, when you have members like Maxine Waters sitting on a committee grilling oil execs, and getting flustered enough to blurt out that "What this democrat is all about is nationalizing....er....um...taking over and running your companies for you".... When you hear Senators like Bernie Sanders openly espouse the tennants of Marxism, and indeed say that he is a socialist, then this is what? talking out of their ass?

    Look, taking from an old Seinfeld episode about Communism, they were ordering Chinese food, and the restraint wouldn't deliver to Elaine because she "Named names!"

    This is what Marxists, and in the modern culture like ours, Alinsky'ites demand so that they can discredit those naming the names, or quickly changing the path that these "communists" within take.

    There was an interview of a former KGB agent from the 60s that was tasked with infiltrating the movements in the US and pushing communist ideals, and ideas, (Can't remember the name) but I do remember him talking about how, it was beyond the wildest dreams of the Kremlin how these student groups, agitation groups, and radicals within took the ball and went beyond the wildest dreams of the leaders in Moscow.

    These are the folks now driving policy in this country, and kid yourself if you wish, but there is an agenda behind them.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, just so I have this straight, when you have members like Maxine Waters sitting on a committee grilling oil execs, and getting flustered enough to blurt out that "What this democrat is all about is nationalizing....er....um...taking over and running your companies for you".... When you hear Senators like Bernie Sanders openly espouse the tennants of Marxism, and indeed say that he is a socialist, then this is what? talking out of their ass?

    Look, taking from an old Seinfeld episode about Communism, they were ordering Chinese food, and the restraint wouldn't deliver to Elaine because she "Named names!"

    This is what Marxists, and in the modern culture like ours, Alinsky'ites demand so that they can discredit those naming the names, or quickly changing the path that these "communists" within take.

    There was an interview of a former KGB agent from the 60s that was tasked with infiltrating the movements in the US and pushing communist ideals, and ideas, (Can't remember the name) but I do remember him talking about how, it was beyond the wildest dreams of the Kremlin how these student groups, agitation groups, and radicals within took the ball and went beyond the wildest dreams of the leaders in Moscow.

    These are the folks now driving policy in this country, and kid yourself if you wish, but there is an agenda behind them.

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    So you've named 1 self described socialist, and one misspeak from a notoriously unintelligent congresswomen. Ok I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with Waters even though somehow I sincerely doubt she's a communist. That's 2 down 79 to go.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    So you've named 1 self described socialist, and one misspeak from a notoriously unintelligent congresswomen. Ok I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with Waters even though somehow I sincerely doubt she's a communist. That's 2 down 79 to go.
    Thank you for proving my point.


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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Thank you for proving my point.


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    And what would this point be?

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

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    And what would this point be?
    Please go back and re read post 443, and then take a look at what I highlighted in 445, and I think if you're being honest you'll understand.


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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    I can't believe that there are 45 pages worth of idiotic posts still trying to defend the patently insane statement by Rep. West.
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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Please go back and re read post 443, and then take a look at what I highlighted in 445, and I think if you're being honest you'll understand.


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    I claimed that West was speaking out his behind when he claimed that up to 81 members of the house were communists, you gave me 2 examples (2 is being extremely generous) and claimed that you had proven some sort of point. What would that point be?

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    I claimed that West was speaking out his behind when he claimed that up to 81 members of the house were communists, you gave me 2 examples (2 is being extremely generous) and claimed that you had proven some sort of point. What would that point be?
    The point is that in today's political atmosphere in DC, it is not only possible that members of our congress, and Senate are holding beliefs that align with communist ideals, but probable. We have a culture of finger pointing, and ad hom in place of defending policy. Thank demo's in charge now for that one.

    Both sides are now doing that, however, don't for one second think that it isn't clear to a majority of people in this country who is actually doing the dividing to mask their failures....That is what will be Obama's real legacy in being a one termer.


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