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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The problem you won't admit is that there is only so much of it to be had unless you force people to pay for and provide things to people and then you are just walking into the building I said you were in.
    You're not calling for a world without force, Henrin. I don't share your ideal that all force is abuse anyway. Some force is necessary, as you acknowledge.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Stick to what you said. You said that the market is not responsive to your needs. Do you admit that is false or not?
    No I said political will makes it responsive, meaning that I believe political will and regulation is required for capitalism to function as intended.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Anyway, folks, I got a put an end to the discussion for today. I've got work to get done.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    I believe in capitalism, actually. But I believe that capitalism should serve humanity, not the other way around.
    That gets into religion, usually anathema to socialists..

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    No I said political will makes it responsive, meaning that I believe political will and regulation is required for capitalism to function as intended.
    regulation is fine as long as it is not designed to destroy the industry it is being levied on without referendum.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    You're not calling for a world without force, Henrin. I don't share your ideal that all force is abuse anyway. Some force is necessary, as you acknowledge.
    More redirecting focus from you, I see. Up to the old tricks again, are we? I never said we shouldn't punish criminals that violation our rights and liberties, but you my friend want to punish the innocent and make them pay for what you need and want. See the difference? Do you notice how you just robbed from them? Do you notice how you just violated their rights, misused tax revenue, and violated their liberty? I Know you do or you wouldn't be trying to redirect focus away from yourself and on to me.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    More redirecting focus from you, I see. Up to the old tricks again, are we? I never said we shouldn't punish criminals that violation our rights and liberties, but you my friend want to punish the innocent and make them pay for what you need and want. See the difference? Do you notice how you just robbed from them? Do you notice how you just violated their rights, misused tax revenue, and violated their liberty? I Know you do or you wouldn't be trying to redirect focus away from yourself and on to me.
    I don't share your belief that taxation is punishment, especially not when those being taxed have a say.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    No I said political will makes it responsive, meaning that I believe political will and regulation is required for capitalism to function as intended.
    Regulation is not required for it to function. Laws and courts are needed to make sure people don't violate our rights, but markets do not need regulation to function. That is make believe you just made up. The market naturally IS responsive to people in the market. Regulation has nothing to do with making it work.

    You can believe whatever you want and it will never change the facts.
    Last edited by Henrin; 04-14-12 at 10:38 PM.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    I don't share your belief that taxation is punishment, especially not when those being taxed have a say.
    Oh so my tax dollars should go towards things to give you want you need? Are you saying that isn't theft?

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Oh so my tax dollars should go towards things to give you want you need? Are you saying that isn't theft?
    Yes, provided their is fair representation, taxation is not theft.

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