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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    There is a study cited in the book Makers and Takers that shows that those people who self identify as having listened to R. Limbaugh were far more politically aware than liberals who merely made the claim that they were. If you want to be actually aware instead of merely claiming awareness, and usually superiority, you ought to listen to talk radio.
    Heightened "Awareness" doesn't necessarily mean heightened intelligence or knowledge of any sort, as demonstrated thoroughly in this thread.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Communism is a classless, stateless society where the means of production are shared equally by all. Find me one government that's ever claimed to be communist. (Here's a hint, "communist government" is an oxymoron.)

    For a bit of education, every single one of the government you're thinking of were, and claimed to be, socialist, not communist. I understand this may confuse you, as I know you equate these two political theories, but to an educated mind there's a vast difference. So I suggest you pick up a ****ing dictionary and perhaps browse for a while on Wikipedia so you can figure out history, and the difference between socialism, communism, and modern liberalism.
    Let me tell you about the Easter Bunny.

    There is theory and there is implementation. Theory is awesome. Wrong. But awesome.
    The implementations are murderous, thuggish, brutal, destructive.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Isn't that what west is doing? Fearmongering?
    He however can and does defend his ideas all the time. Marx never did and knew he couldn't.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Heightened "Awareness" doesn't necessarily mean heightened intelligence or knowledge of any sort, as demonstrated thoroughly in this thread.
    I see. Getting higher scores on political tests does not correlate to the kind of knowledge you mean. LOL. What an idiotic statement.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Heightened "Awareness" doesn't necessarily mean heightened intelligence or knowledge of any sort, as demonstrated thoroughly in this thread.
    Actually, you did just demonstrate it in your message. Thanks for that.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    He however can and does defend his ideas all the time. Marx never did and knew he couldn't.
    But he can't defend the idea that there are 81 communists in Congress, because they are factually not there. I'm sure Marx thought he could defend his ideas just fine. He certainly attempted to do so in writings, etc. His ideas were of their own time, and they've certainly influenced the modern age, but Marxism is not a modern philosophy, and communism is not taking hold in the modern United States, and any assertion that they are is exactly the type of diversionary tactic you're describing.

    I'm not a defender of Marx. Marx can defend himself. I'm a defender of my own ideas and perspectives. Modern liberals, likewise, may not share your worldview, but very few follow Marxist ideology.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    Yes, we can believe them just like Ubama and congress who took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution and they haven't done that either.
    Well to be honest we haven't upheld and defended the Constitution for most of the life of the country. Obama and congress is just more of the same there. You might think that is defense of Obama and the current congress but its meant as an attack on them and most of the leaders of the past.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Well to be honest we haven't upheld and defended the Constitution for most of the life of the country. Obama and congress is just more of the same there. You might think that is defense of Obama and the current congress but its meant as an attack on them and most of the leaders of the past.
    Do you see American history, then, as a long regression? Do you see the rise of American dominance as a threat to the world?

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Modern liberals, likewise, may not share your worldview, but very few follow Marxist ideology.
    Don't be silly. Of course they do. When one's core values follow the template, its a duck.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Don't be silly. Of course they do. When one's core values follow the template, its a duck.
    Core values as you've prescribed them. Again ... this name-calling is more about your own fears and anger than anything else.

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