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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Frankly, those that advocate class warfare are the worst of communists. Those that advocate such as an expanding welfare class are the worst of communists. Those that advocate no accountability are the worst of Communists. West understands this, and he is surely not alone.

    Not said lightly, but the typical Marx-Leninist Communists were far more self respecting than this new American breed of political scum.
    This post makes me feel for you ... so much irrational anger. View your fellow Americans more charitably -- our country is built on cooperation. This sort of blind bigotry can't lead to a happy ending.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Why the **** are there so many people in this thread who don't have a ****ing clue what communism is?
    Why should that be surprising? Even many communists didn't know what Communism really was, or how to achieve it.

    They certainly had a lot of theories, while murdering tens of millions of people and destroying hundreds of millions more lives, but lets hear your definition of what real communism is.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    This post makes me feel for you ... so much irrational anger. View your fellow Americans more charitably -- our country is built on cooperation. This sort of blind bigotry can't lead to a happy ending.
    Bigotry against communism? I've never heard of that before.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    I'll take that as a white flag, seeing as the post you referenced provided zero correlation between the policies of liberals and communists.
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    A correlation is the desire for more government and less personal responsibility

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why should that be surprising? Even many communists didn't know what Communism really was, or how to achieve it.

    They certainly had a lot of theories, while murdering tens of millions of people and destroying hundreds of millions more lives, but lets hear your definition of what real communism is.
    Communism is a classless, stateless society where the means of production are shared equally by all. Find me one government that's ever claimed to be communist. (Here's a hint, "communist government" is an oxymoron.)

    For a bit of education, every single one of the government you're thinking of were, and claimed to be, socialist, not communist. I understand this may confuse you, as I know you equate these two political theories, but to an educated mind there's a vast difference. So I suggest you pick up a ****ing dictionary and perhaps browse for a while on Wikipedia so you can figure out history, and the difference between socialism, communism, and modern liberalism.
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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
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    A correlation is the desire for more government and less personal responsibility
    Communism doesn't have governments, that's the whole stateless bit.
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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Communism is a classless, stateless society where the means of production are shared equally by all
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    Great. Thanks for your definition.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
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    Great. Thanks for your definition.
    That's not my definition, that's the definition.

    For ****s sake, we're talking about people believing in a specific political philosophy, and some of you don't have a clue what that philosophy actually is.
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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's quite right. Communists at one time would call themselves Communists and feel there was a certain cachet to it, as though they were more intellectually sophisticated because of their political leanings. Like the Progressives, etc. Trotskyites would debate with Leninists who would debate with Marxists who would debate with the Marxist/Leninists an so on, like the angels on the head of a pin.

    But now that many have become aware of the hells communism created even the most rabid Lenist/Marxist/Trotskyite head case has to back off a little. Mistakes were made, etc. but this time we'll get it right.

    It is a stealth war. Everyone knows that the United States cannot be defeated militarily so it will be done by other means, just as the Chinese have done in Tibet and the Muslims are doing in Europe. The United States will be defeated from within and, frankly, I think its too late to stop.

    Franklin said you've got a republic - if you can keep it- and i think we are living through the end of it now. Not the very end, that will take some time, but the beginning of the end. I'll be sorry to see it go.
    It is too late to stop. That's why me and my comrades today feel emboldened to raise the curtain. The perceptive few, such as yourself, should have acted when you had the chance. But now the seeds have taken hold, have germinated and will soon bring forth a bitter harvest. The time for pretense has passed. What was hidden will soon be made manifest, and a great red phoenix will rise from the ashes of the 20th century.

    Tremble, my bourgeoisie friend. Tremble.

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    Re: Rep. Allen West Says Up To 81 House Members Are Communists

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Communism doesn't have governments, that's the whole stateless bit.
    Nobody s in charge, huh? It's like parents leaving you alone for the weekend.

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