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    Re: Readers react to Ozzie Guillen’s Castro comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    In all honesty, if you ever watch a Marlin's game, there is no one in the stands. Not sure this is going to change that.
    They just moved into a brand new, beautiful, retractrable roof stadium, and the owner finally opened his wallet to get some legitimate stars. I think the days of the Marlins playing to an empty house are over. It sucked watching them play in a football stadium in the blazing sun, with frequent downpours.
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    Re: Readers react to Ozzie Guillen’s Castro comments

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    Readers react to Ozzie Guillen's Castro comments - Breaking News - MiamiHerald.com

    what did ozzie do that was so wrong?
    he differentiated that while he respected castro the person he held no affection for castro's political beliefs
    expressed similar sentiment for chavez in venezuela


    is this a case where PC trumps free speech, because the marlins' ownership is trying to attract miami's cuban expatriate community
    What exactly does he respect about him? His police state? Human rights? Spying on neighbors and reporting back to the regime? Speaking against the regime lands you in prison. His regime has had the longest serving political prisoner in world history: over 28 years. Disease, suicides, murdering his own people. Yeah, I can see how he would have respect for the man.

    It's rhetorical...no answer is necessary.
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    Re: Readers react to Ozzie Guillen’s Castro comments

    The team is a business that relies on public support. Yes, the individual has the right to free speech, but the team also has to right to protect itself. The team would be completely justified taking any action against this individual if his "free speech" is not to the owners liking or if they feel that he has done something to damage the team, their business. Of course, in this case, the manager is under a contract and they cannot fire him unless he breaks the contract or they pay off that contract. Any business has the right to fire employees for whatever reason they choose, if you don't like it, then you as a member of society have the right not to do business with them if you dissaprove.

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    Re: Readers react to Ozzie Guillen’s Castro comments

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    The team is a business that relies on public support. Yes, the individual has the right to free speech, but the team also has to right to protect itself. The team would be completely justified taking any action against this individual if his "free speech" is not to the owners liking or if they feel that he has done something to damage the team, their business. Of course, in this case, the manager is under a contract and they cannot fire him unless he breaks the contract or they pay off that contract. Any business has the right to fire employees for whatever reason they choose, if you don't like it, then you as a member of society have the right not to do business with them if you dissaprove.
    Yeah this pretty much sums up my view.
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    Re: Readers react to Ozzie Guillen’s Castro comments

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    They just moved into a brand new, beautiful, retractrable roof stadium, and the owner finally opened his wallet to get some legitimate stars. I think the days of the Marlins playing to an empty house are over. It sucked watching them play in a football stadium in the blazing sun, with frequent downpours.
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    I hope so for a World Series winning team.
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    Re: Readers react to Ozzie Guillen’s Castro comments

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    how about if a yankee baseball player said he opposed bibi's policy oppressing gazans. would that be punishable in a city with an influential jewish population?
    or if a detroit or atlanta baseball player expressed opposition to al sharpton stirring the racial pot in florida. would that deserve suspension because of the significant black population in those cities?
    I was just reminded of Marge Schott, the former owners of the Reds, being suspended from Baseball activities for a full year for expressing her personal opinion about Hitler's policies actually being beneficial to Germany (until he went off the rails). This seems fairly similar to Ozzie's comment.

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    Re: Readers react to Ozzie Guillen’s Castro comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I hope so for a World Series winning team.
    Me too. Time will tell. For sure Miami is not a great sports city.
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    Re: Readers react to Ozzie Guillen’s Castro comments

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Me too. Time will tell. For sure Miami is not a great sports city.
    Sometimes I miss living outside New England. Those are the times I could actually go to a baseball game for less than $50. I went to a Ranger's game for $7 not to long ago. I miss that.
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    Re: Readers react to Ozzie Guillen’s Castro comments

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    They just moved into a brand new, beautiful, retractrable roof stadium, and the owner finally opened his wallet to get some legitimate stars. I think the days of the Marlins playing to an empty house are over. It sucked watching them play in a football stadium in the blazing sun, with frequent downpours.
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    one of the reader's comments in the cited story opined that ozzie may have solved the parking shortage at the new stadium
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    Re: Readers react to Ozzie Guillen’s Castro comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    What exactly does he respect about him? His police state? Human rights? Spying on neighbors and reporting back to the regime? Speaking against the regime lands you in prison. His regime has had the longest serving political prisoner in world history: over 28 years. Disease, suicides, murdering his own people. Yeah, I can see how he would have respect for the man.

    It's rhetorical...no answer is necessary.
    ozzie made it clear that he was not a fan of castro's politics but of his tenacity. his ability to stick around despite repeated attempts to neutralize him. he expressed the same thing about venezuela's ortega
    being outspoken and rather tenacious himself, ozzie probably values those aspects of their personalities
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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