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    Re: Walker signs bill barring workers from collecting damages for employment discrimi

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Really... If every middle class man with a wife and two kids who lost their jobs had their life ruined, bodies would be piled up on the streets from coast to coast. Like I said, in your scenario, getting fired is the best thing that could happen to that guy. And guess what - the guy gets another job, maybe not his optimal college educated primary job, but something that pays the bills. And the wife too. Kids go to mom and dads, or a friends, or a neighbors, or they have to go to day care (worse case)... but they make due.
    Seems fair...I mean the guy did make the mistake of wearing black shoes with a blue suit...everyone respectable businessman knows not to do that...

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    Re: Walker signs bill barring workers from collecting damages for employment discrimi

    I wonder if Wisconsin has the final say or does the federal government decide what is right here.

    Federal Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO) Laws
    I. What Are the Federal Laws Prohibiting Job Discrimination?

    Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII), which prohibits employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin;
    the Equal Pay Act of 1963 (EPA), which protects men and women who perform substantially equal work in the same establishment from sex-based wage discrimination;
    the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA), which protects individuals who are 40 years of age or older;
    Title I and Title V of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990, as amended (ADA), which prohibit employment discrimination against qualified individuals with disabilities in the private sector, and in state and local governments;
    Sections 501 and 505 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, which prohibit discrimination against qualified individuals with disabilities who work in the federal government;
    Title II of the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act of 2008 (GINA), which prohibits employment discrimination based on genetic information about an applicant, employee, or former employee; and
    the Civil Rights Act of 1991, which, among other things, provides monetary damages in cases of intentional employment discrimination.

    The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) enforces all of these laws. EEOC also provides oversight and coordination of all federal equal employment opportunity regulations, practices, and policies.

    Federal Laws Prohibiting Job Discrimination: Questions And Answers
    Maybe I read something wrong or misunderstood the issues at stake here, I dunno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Punitive damages for the multitude of BS discrimination claims ? Good job Walker ! They get back wages, costs, and fees. But there is no basis that added damages should be enabled.

    Someone has to clean up this liberal mess that has been as an enema on the Republic. Walker is the man !!!!
    Punitive damages should be curbbed in some cases; however, without them companies/people will not bat an eye since there won't be a punishment. IMO though it would be better to send the offender(s) to jail.

    @ Maggie: the McDonald's hot coffee case was punitive award was actually warrented. The woman sued because McDonald's jerked her around after she suffered 3rd degree burns from the coffee. All she asked for was get medical expenses be paid, the temperature to be lowered and the lid to be sturdier (it poped off while she was parked and she want the one driving the car) they told her **** off. That "**** of"was why the jury levied such a harsh punishment.

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    Re: Walker signs bill barring workers from collecting damages for employment discrimi

    The financial punitive damages don't cure the problem.....the punishment aspect should be the termination of whatever level of managers participated...
    If the jerks are fired, that is putting the punishment where it belongs....
    A lot of the crap that goes on at work would stop immediatelly if front line supervision weren't so eager to please upper management that they put their own jobs at risk.
    Human Resources is not there so much to protect the lower level employee as much as it is there to protect the company from the stupiditiy of its own front line management...
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    Re: Walker signs bill barring workers from collecting damages for employment discrimi

    Some of you think Walker is "the man"? Have you seen what else he has done? Everything else that he signed last week and did not announce until a Friday holiday? Walker is a weenie and a coward. If you like him so much you can come live here too.

    Repeal of equal pay enforcement act
    Allow abstinence only education
    Abortion restrictions

    On and on.

    What is his next project?

    Walker wants warrantless DNA testing for some crime suspects.
    Walker wants warrantless DNA testing for some crime suspects

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    Re: Walker signs bill barring workers from collecting damages for employment discrimi

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    I agree he is those things.Standing up to union thugs.Hopefully he beats the recall election and implements more laws to weaken union power.I would like to see closed shops banned.If someone wants to join a union then that should be their choice and they should be able to join what ever union they want.They shouldn't be forced to join a union just because they want to be a public school teacher, firefighter or some other job.It amazes me that these people fraudulently claim that joining a union is a right when they want to force people to join their union in order to get that job.A right implies that you have the option.For example the 2nd amendment gives you the right to keep and bear arms, it doesn't force you to keep and bear arms.

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    Lawsuits should be capped period. You should able to collect the collect the cost of the average attorney, and back wages should you win an employee discrimination lawsuit, but you shouldn't be allowed to collect hundreds or thousands of dollars of additional money.
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    Re: Walker signs bill barring workers from collecting damages for employment discrimi

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    Walker is such a great guy! I mean a real stand up Governor! I pray to god he is gone

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    He had an agenda when coming in to office and he's following through with it. Thank God for people like him and Rick Scott. People are getting a taste of "small government" Conservatism and what it really means. Pro-Corporate anti-middle class policies.
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    Re: Walker signs bill barring workers from collecting damages for employment discrimi

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So what? Still another ****ing terrible useless no point bill passed by this bastard/.


    It wasn't "passed" by Walker, champ. It was passed by the legislature. The governor doesn't create laws.

    Last I heard, getting in the way of a democratically-elected legislature was an unprecedented and extraordinary no-no. Oh, wait; that's different.
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    Re: Walker signs bill barring workers from collecting damages for employment discrimi

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    The financial punitive damages don't cure the problem.....the punishment aspect should be the termination of whatever level of managers participated...
    while you are correct in your assessment about where the problem actually originates, it usually requires a plaintiff winning such a suit for HR to recognize that they have a bad manager who needs to be removed
    at least that was my experience with one federal agency
    senior management refused to take a look at what was going on until the jury awarded actual and punitive damages (plus attorney fees) in repeated title VII cases in federal court
    usually took about a decade to finally get the terrible manager terminated
    If the jerks are fired, that is putting the punishment where it belongs....
    agreed, but too often those who can get rid of the jerk pay no attention until a title VII case is won
    A lot of the crap that goes on at work would stop immediatelly if front line supervision weren't so eager to please upper management that they put their own jobs at risk.
    again, too true - especially in the federal sector
    that careerist manager in the field has to answer to that political appointee in DC
    that appointee does not expect to be around forever. that careerist manager does. so, either (s)he follows the political appointee's directive - however illegal/unethical it may be, or that careerist manager's career is in jeopardy (because only a few federal managers have a union to defend them against such arbitrary termination actions by politically connected supervisors)
    Human Resources is not there so much to protect the lower level employee as much as it is there to protect the company from the stupiditiy of its own front line management...
    and the truest statement of all. HR is not there to support/defend the rank and file. misunderstand that reality at your own risk
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    Re: Walker signs bill barring workers from collecting damages for employment discrimi

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    So you think it is perfectly ok for an employer to be able to ruin a families life because he didn't like the color of a guys shoes?
    That's already the case in my state. It's a right to hire-right to fire state. You have a right to work anywhere you want, and any employer has a right to hire you or fire you for any reason other than race, sex, etc. They can walk in and say your shoes are an ugly color, goodbye. And there isn't anything you can do about it. Why? Because you do not have a right to a job. A job is not a right, no matter what liberals say.

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