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BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon Mart

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Unless I am missing something, this means that they have decided not to pursue charges.

CNN.com has similar news:
Special prosecutor in Trayvon Martin shooting has decided against sending the case to a grand jury, her office says.
 
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Unless I am missing something, this means that they have decided not to pursue charges.

CNN.com has similar news:

I can't find the story on your link, Buck. The Special Prosecutor has said all along that sending it to the Grand Jury may not be necessary. Maybe that's what this is about. Her position has been that since Zimmerman has admitted to killing Martin, no GJ is necessary. That may be what this is about.
 
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I can't find the story on your link, Buck. The Special Prosecutor has said all along that sending it to the Grand Jury may not be necessary. Maybe that's what this is about. Her position has been that since Zimmerman has admitted to killing Martin, no GJ is necessary. That may be what this is about.

Yes, I jumped the gun. I was able to find the story at George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin case: No Grand Jury


Special prosecutor Angela Corey says she will not bring the Trayvon Martin shooting death before a grand jury.

Corey said Monday she continues to investigate the case and will not involve a grand jury set to meet Tuesday

Corey says her decision to skip the grand jury shouldn't be considered a factor in determining whether charges will be filed against George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who has admitted to fatally shooting the unarmed Martin.

That means the decision now rests solely with Corey
 
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That means the decision now rests solely with Corey


Why would anyone in their right mind want this all on them?
 
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Why would anyone in their right mind want this all on them?

Agreed. No matter which way she goes, she's going to end up with a lot of criticsm.
 
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Why would anyone in their right mind want this all on them?
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Because she probably intends to bring charges come hell or high water. It's not about truth now. Now about the law. Not about the regular standards the DA uses to decide whether or not to bring charges. It's about bringing Zimmerman to trial to satisfy the people who have already convicted him in their minds.
 
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CNN article here says Corey never uses GJ in trials like this and doesn't feel that it is needed. The investigation continues and there will be no further comments, she said.

Could mean they have enough evidence as it is. Who knows?
 
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Because she probably intends to bring charges come hell or high water. It's not about truth now. Now about the law. Not about the regular standards the DA uses to decide whether or not to bring charges. It's about bringing Zimmerman to trial to satisfy the people who have already convicted him in their minds.

The thought of them having a trial and finding him not guilty brings 2 words to mind... Rodney King.
 
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Why would anyone in their right mind want this all on them?
Maybe she has political aspirations. Iow, she's not in her right mind.
 
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Because she probably intends to bring charges come hell or high water. It's not about truth now. Now about the law. Not about the regular standards the DA uses to decide whether or not to bring charges. It's about bringing Zimmerman to trial to satisfy the people who have already convicted him in their minds.


Or not. ha ha
 
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CNN article here says Corey never uses GJ in trials like this and doesn't feel that it is needed. The investigation continues and there will be no further comments, she said.

Could mean they have enough evidence as it is. Who knows?
If they do, they're being super slow about it.
 
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Because she probably intends to bring charges come hell or high water. It's not about truth now. Now about the law. Not about the regular standards the DA uses to decide whether or not to bring charges. It's about bringing Zimmerman to trial to satisfy the people who have already convicted him in their minds.

I think you have things a little backward here. People want charges brought come hell or high water. This DA, or the investigators have no obligation to do anything just because the mob says so. They are not required to appease anyone. It is there job to prosecute when they feel a crime has been committed and if they feel they have enough evidence to reasonably believe a conviction is likely. No prosecutor in my mind is going to go to trial with a case they don't think they have a realistic shot at winning.

Look at the evidence as we know it. I know the investigator certainly has more evidence than we do. But look at what we do have. Eye witnesses, injuries, ect that support Zimmerman's claims. In order to win the defense only has to convince 1 person out of 12 that there is reasonable doubt that Zimmerman did not commit murder. 1 in 12. Take a look at any realistic pool of potential jurors. You'd be hard pressed to find a group of 12 people, especially with the defense participating in the jury selection, that would all vote for the prosecution. The defense has a strong defense. The prosecutor knows this. If DA brings charges to appease the mob, they are then going to have to deal with the backlash of failing at trial (see casey anthony which happened to be in florida too).

Personally, I dont think the DA is going to do it. I think this is the first step in the letting people down slowly routine. This will put some doubt in people's minds. They let soem time pass and now this. After people react and it dies down a bit, they will gradually keep dropping other hints at no charges until they can safely finally publically announce it.
 
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There's no point in a grand jury. He's confessed to the killing and is claiming self-defense-- it either goes straight to trial or the charges will be dismissed. Grand juries are for deciding whether or not there is enough evidence for an indictment.
 
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There's no point in a grand jury. He's confessed to the killing and is claiming self-defense-- it either goes straight to trial or the charges will be dismissed. Grand juries are for deciding whether or not there is enough evidence for an indictment.
It may also mean that she does not want to leave anything to chance.
A No-Bill by a Grand Jury could limit her ability to control the situation.
 
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Listening to the radio here it sounds like she would have needed a grand jury if they were going to pursue first degree murder charges only (still would if it came to that). I dont think anyone actually things first degree charges would be warranted so it makes sense not to.
 
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Unless I am missing something, this means that they have decided not to pursue charges.

CNN.com has similar news:

Not the case. Grand juries in Florida are only for 1st degree murder cases. It means that Zimmerman won't be charged with murder, although it looks like he is going to be charged with manslaughter as early as this week. I can agree with that. Zimmerman's behavior doesn't warrant murder charges, but he was reckless, and that recklessness led to the death of Martin. So this would be an appropriate route for the system to take.
 
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I can't find the story on your link, Buck. The Special Prosecutor has said all along that sending it to the Grand Jury may not be necessary. Maybe that's what this is about. Her position has been that since Zimmerman has admitted to killing Martin, no GJ is necessary. That may be what this is about.

U.S. News - Prosecutor: No grand jury for Trayvon Martin case
 
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Not the case. Grand juries in Florida are only for 1st degree murder cases. It means that Zimmerman won't be charged with murder, although it looks like he is going to be charged with manslaughter as early as this week. I can agree with that. Zimmerman's behavior doesn't warrant murder charges, but he was reckless, and that recklessness led to the death of Martin. So this would be an appropriate route for the system to take.

Zimmerman was not reckless. Martin's death was caused by him engaging in felony aggravated assault and attempted murder of Zimmerman.

Look, I understand many people don't give a damn about other people and live their lives as cowardly and self-centrix as possible. That doesn't not make not living in total apathy of others and as a complete coward a criminal offense.
 
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How can they take him to trial about anything without an indictment?
 
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Because she probably intends to bring charges come hell or high water. It's not about truth now. Now about the law. Not about the regular standards the DA uses to decide whether or not to bring charges. It's about bringing Zimmerman to trial to satisfy the people who have already convicted him in their minds.

This speaks to the problem she now has. If she brings him to trial, no matter the evidence, some will see it as you lay out here. If she doesn't, others will build a similar case that she was hell bent to not press charges. Instead, I think the third option should be what evidence does she present either way.
 
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It's going to be Rodney King all over again.
 
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Not the case. Grand juries in Florida are only for 1st degree murder cases. It means that Zimmerman won't be charged with murder, although it looks like he is going to be charged with manslaughter as early as this week. I can agree with that. Zimmerman's behavior doesn't warrant murder charges, but he was reckless, and that recklessness led to the death of Martin. So this would be an appropriate route for the system to take.
Corey took over the case last month after the prosecutor who normally handles cases out of Sanford recused himself. That prosecutor, Norm Wolfinger, had originally called for the case to be presented before a grand jury.

Prosecutors sometimes use grand juries to avoid the political fallout from controversial cases.

If you go back and check....Every self-defense homicide in that county has gone to a grand jury for a charging decision

She's stalling because she has nothing legally to pin Zim down for the.... 1, 2, 3 count

Btw - Martin's reaction was rash, reckless, disproportional to the situation and only got him killed
 
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Agreed. No matter which way she goes, she's going to end up with a lot of criticsm.


She is being pressured into arresting Zimmerman.
 
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Why would anyone in their right mind want this all on them?

Maybe she thought bringing it to a Grand Jury opened up too much of a chance that a trial might not take place. Just think what might happen if the Grand Jury rejected the case right now. My guess is that she has already made up to bring it to trial in some shape or form.
 
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