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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    There is no evidence that the 911 tapes werent Zimmermans. They were the opinions of guys trying to get in on the exploitation of this situation. Again the defense does not have to disprove every piece of evidence. An eye witness alone is more than enough to derail an entire case.
    There is evidence you want to believe then there is the body of evidence which is all the rest you wish to ignore. The jury doesn't get to ignore evidence or throw evidence out like you are doing.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    People scream when they're shot.
    Except in this case the screaming stopped after the shot was fired... and Zimmerman has staked a claim that it was him screaming.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    Zimmerman was the only one with injuries, verifying the eye witness account he was getting beat up.
    Then Treyvon should clearly have some of alllll that so-called abundance of blood Zimmerman was shedding from his head and broken nose on his & Zimmerman's clothes right? Or Treyvon's knuckles would show wear of the tremendous beating Zimmerman was getting at his hands right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    The rest of your post is emotional BS.
    I'm not getting one bit emotional. I'm just stating that there is evidence that you are not considering all while saying "clear cut". It is not clear cut in any way.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    "race hustler" is that another word for anti-bigot?
    Nope. Look it up in the dictionary.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    Sharpton of MSNBC, Jackson, Roland Martin of CNN, Karen Finney of MSNBC, Martin Bashir of MSNBC, etc. There are more, but that's a good enough start to make a point.
    I think all of the people you mentioned have talked publicly about "kids being murdered everyday". It turns out, however, that "everyday murderers" don't usually make national news so you don't see them as often when they're talking about that. Here's some info on Sharpton and Jackson.

    Sharpton decries black-on-black violence *| ajc.com
    Issues | Rainbow PUSH Coalition (Jackson's organization where some it's main issues is gun violence in "urban" aka black communities)

    I would also appreciate it if you would answer the other question I asked: How do you know them so well as to know what they talk about when you're not around and when a camera isn't in their face?

    Your posts seem to be classic case of "if I don't see it, it doesn't exist" which is an illogical position to take.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    Nope. Look it up in the dictionary.
    Here ya go. http://www.definition-of.net/race+hustler

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    All of the people you mentioned have talked publicly about "kids being murdered everyday". It turns out, however, that "everyday murderers" don't usually make national news so you don't see them as often when they're talking about that. Here's some info on Sharpton and Jackson.

    Sharpton decries black-on-black violence *| ajc.com
    Issues | Rainbow PUSH Coalition (Jackson's organization where some it's main issues is gun violence in "urban" aka black communities)

    I would also appreciate it if you would answer the other question I asked: How do you know them so well as to know what they talk about when you're not around and when a camera isn't in their face?

    Your posts seem to be classic case of "if I don't see it, it doesn't exist" which is an illogical position to take.
    I know them well because I grew up and lived in Minnapolis in the 60s and 70s. I know how big city Black liberals operate very well. Talk is cheap. You can't logically deny that what happened here is not race hustling. I don't care if they love dogs and buy kids ice cream cones. They're still race hustlers. That's how they have made their living and still do.

    This tragedy was used because of the SYG law. Why this tragedy over all the other murders happening every day? What's so special about this one? I know. Do you? Tell us.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    The only one assumed innocent is the person facing charges. To the best of my knowledge, Martin is not facing charges.
    Of course he isn't, he's dead. If that notion alone isn't enough to raise alarm bells towards the current justice system must I put it in simpler terms? For the living guy to be innocent lacking reasonable doubt, the dead guy has to be guilty lacking reasonable doubt.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Burden of proof = There is a dead body and you made it that way. From that point, you have to prove that it was self defense.
    The prosecution doesnt just have to produce a dead body and get to call it a day. They have to prove murder beyond a reasonable doubt. The defense never has the burden of proof placed upon them. That's just not the way it works. Our legal system is not set up that way.

    The defense has to prove that it was self defense and in doing so, you have to prove that he was being attacked by Treyvon which would be a crime by Treyvon.
    Again, no. The defense has to make the jury beleive that there is a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman committed murder (or possibly manslaughter in this case from the rumors). They do not have to prove Zimmerman was being attacked by Martin they only have to make 1 out of 12 jurors reasonably believe he might have been attacked. The prosecution has to prove to 12 out of 12 jurors that there is no way Zimmerman acted in self defense.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    There is evidence you want to believe then there is the body of evidence which is all the rest you wish to ignore. The jury doesn't get to ignore evidence or throw evidence out like you are doing.
    A body does not equal murder. You again seem to be confusing the legal system with the court of public opinion.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    Sharpton of MSNBC, Jackson, Roland Martin of CNN, Karen Finney of MSNBC, Martin Bashir of MSNBC, etc. There are more, but that's a good enough start to make a point.
    You forget your name on that list. That is your real name --- as you have stated so many times - right?
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