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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Actually, we can do whatever we want. Assumptions can be made regardless of whether someone is on trial.
    Legally the prosecution can't make assumptions. Rational people probably shouldnt either. But yes, you can make all the assumptions you want. Enjoy.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17
    The thought of them having a trial and finding him not guilty brings 2 words to mind... Rodney King.
    This is exactly what I was thinking.

    There was ZERO chance that the prosecution could throw capital murder at a jury in this case. It wouldn't have made it through the front door.

    Whether or not there is a trial for the case is immaterial. The court of public opinion has already chosen its sides.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Legally the prosecution can't make assumptions. Rational people probably shouldnt either. But yes, you can make all the assumptions you want. Enjoy.
    I never get it when people say things like "rational people shouldn't make assumptions". In every interaction you have with people, you're making assumptions. When we vote, we make assumptions. When we decide to date someone, we make assumptions. In order to form any hypothesis about anything, we need to make assumptions. Most of life is assumptions and it's rational to make them or else you'd never leave your house.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I never get it when people say things like "rational people shouldn't make assumptions". In every interaction you have with people, you're making assumptions. When we vote, we make assumptions. When we decide to date someone, we make assumptions. In order to form any hypothesis about anything, we need to make assumptions. Most of life is assumptions and it's rational to make them or else you'd never leave your house.
    Depends on what you make your assumptions on. Facts or emotion.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I never get it when people say things like "rational people shouldn't make assumptions". In every interaction you have with people, you're making assumptions. When we vote, we make assumptions. When we decide to date someone, we make assumptions. In order to form any hypothesis about anything, we need to make assumptions. Most of life is assumptions and it's rational to make them or else you'd never leave your house.
    We are talking about a man being guilty or not of murder. Not who you decide to date. Just because you can make assumptions about you date is a pretty far cry from making assumptions when determining a person guilt in a murder trial. You have to be messing with me to imply there isnt a difference between the two.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    We are talking about a man being guilty or not of murder. Not who you decide to date. Just because you can make assumptions about you date is a pretty far cry from making assumptions when determining a person guilt in a murder trial. You have to be messing with me to imply there isnt a difference between the two.
    Sure there is a difference, but that difference has no bearing on whether or not it is "rational" - unless you have some emotional ties to a murder case that make it upsetting when members of the public make assumptions about it. Moreover, lawyers in a murder case on both sides must make assumptions in order to even develop arguments. Judges and jurors must make assumptions in order to even come to conclusions. Everybody has to make assumptions. So again, still rational and necessary.

    Another point for the public - it's perfectly rational to see a national news story and piece together your own hypothesis about what happened by making assumptions. In fact, I don't even know that's it's possible to be presented information and then turn your brain off in such a way that you wouldn't come to assumed conclusions about the information you've been given. Have you not made assumptions about the Zimmerman case?

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Sure there is a difference, but that difference has no bearing on whether or not it is "rational" - unless you have some emotional ties to a murder case that make it upsetting when members of the public make assumptions about it. Moreover, lawyers in a murder case on both sides must make assumptions in order to even develop arguments. Judges and jurors must make assumptions in order to even come to conclusions. Everybody has to make assumptions. So again, still rational and necessary.

    Another point for the public - it's perfectly rational to see a national news story and piece together your own hypothesis about what happened by making assumptions. In fact, I don't even know that's it's possible to be presented information and then turn your brain off in such a way that you wouldn't come to assumed conclusions about the information you've been given. Have you not made assumptions about the Zimmerman case?
    There were deliberate distortions of the "facts" in this tragedy in order to form public opinion. That is the real tragedy.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    There were deliberate distortions of the "facts" in this tragedy in order to form public opinion. That is the real tragedy.
    Well, the real tragedy is that a 17 year old is dead before he even started his life, but whatever. Details.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Well, the real tragedy is that a 17 year old is dead before he even started his life, but whatever. Details.
    The loss of life is always a tragedy. That doesn't make it a crime.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Well, the real tragedy is that a 17 year old is dead before he even started his life, but whatever. Details.
    Kids are being murdered every day and the race hustlers on the left never say a word. That's also a "tragedy".

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