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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I would think there would have to be some judicial or GJ action before a person could be held in jail.
    There is, but it's not by a GJ in Florida unless they are considering first degree murder. The prosecutor files the charges on anything below that, and a warrant is issued by the judge, if the judge accepts those charges.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The prosecutor files the charges on anything below that, and a warrant is issued by the judge, if the judge accepts those charges.

    In layman's terms - It's throwing **** against the wall and seeing what sticks.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    In layman's terms - It's throwing **** against the wall and seeing what sticks.
    Or in logical terms, the judge reviews the charge and makes a determination as if it meets the standard for an arrest.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It seems more SOP than anything else if what other people have posted is true. Since he admitted to killing him, apparently there is no need for a GJ and it seems that historically this DA would not seek GJs under these circumstances.
    Killing him and actually comitting a crime could be two different things.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    Killing him and actually comitting a crime could be two different things.
    True, which is why if the DA moves forward there would still need to be a trial. But I was refering to the necessity of GJs for prosecution and this DA's history of not seeking a GJ when one is not needed.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Zimmerman was not reckless. Martin's death was caused by him engaging in felony aggravated assault and attempted murder of Zimmerman.

    Look, I understand many people don't give a damn about other people and live their lives as cowardly and self-centrix as possible. That doesn't not make not living in total apathy of others and as a complete coward a criminal offense.
    Innocent until proven guilty. That should apply to the deceased also. For Zimmerman to have acted in self defence, it should be proven that Martin commited the crime of assault. That's the case of missing the forest for the trees here.

    If Martin had survived the gunshot, he would presumably be standing trial given your narrative. If anything, current laws should take account of that even if the "criminal" died.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Innocent until proven guilty. That should apply to the deceased also. For Zimmerman to have acted in self defence, it should be proven that Martin commited the crime of assault. That's the case of missing the forest for the trees here.

    If Martin had survived the gunshot, he would presumably be standing trial given your narrative. If anything, current laws should take account of that even if the "criminal" died.
    Martin is not on trial. We cant assume what his testimony would be.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Martin is not on trial. We cant assume what his testimony would be.
    Actually, we can do whatever we want. Assumptions can be made regardless of whether someone is on trial.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Unless I am missing something, this means that they have decided not to pursue charges.
    The special prosecutor in charge of the Zimmerman case usually avoids using grand juries if it wasn't necessary and only first-degree murder cases require the use of grand juries in Florida. It's likely that there is not sufficient evidence for first-degree murder and lesser charges are expected.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    I am eager to see what decision she eventually makes on this.
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