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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon


    That is some crazy **** right there.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Man you are hell bent on race-baiting. You know there is a topic in this other than your personal hatred of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the NAACP and the idiot new black panthers that seem to dominate your posts.
    No, you have it.....ALL wrong

    A $10K bounty on Zimmerman's head? The desire to up the bounty to $1 Mil? Spike Lee tweeting Zimmerman's home address?

    The Sharptons and Jacksons of the world are whipping up this frenzy for *justice*.

    They're, the ones hell bent on race-baiting

    Get your **** straight

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
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    Because she probably intends to bring charges come hell or high water. It's not about truth now. Now about the law. Not about the regular standards the DA uses to decide whether or not to bring charges. It's about bringing Zimmerman to trial to satisfy the people who have already convicted him in their minds.
    I think I heard on the news that she goes really harsh on people. She tried a 10 year old as an adult and the public was really angry at her, but she kept going with it.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
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    Because she probably intends to bring charges come hell or high water. It's not about truth now. Now about the law. Not about the regular standards the DA uses to decide whether or not to bring charges. It's about bringing Zimmerman to trial to satisfy the people who have already convicted him in their minds.
    Agreed. A grand jury was more likely to just act on the evidence. Right now, the evidence is not there to convict Zimmerman. I say that as I am down here, and get the local legal experts all day long, all saying the same thing, lest some unknown evidence appear. Politics needs to be satisfied as best as possible here, which means a trial.

    Meanwhile, we have the NBPP racist hoodlums down here once again showing the ass of the black community. Lots of ass there too.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I think you have things a little backward here. People want charges brought come hell or high water. This DA, or the investigators have no obligation to do anything just because the mob says so. They are not required to appease anyone. It is there job to prosecute when they feel a crime has been committed and if they feel they have enough evidence to reasonably believe a conviction is likely. No prosecutor in my mind is going to go to trial with a case they don't think they have a realistic shot at winning.

    Look at the evidence as we know it. I know the investigator certainly has more evidence than we do. But look at what we do have. Eye witnesses, injuries, ect that support Zimmerman's claims. In order to win the defense only has to convince 1 person out of 12 that there is reasonable doubt that Zimmerman did not commit murder. 1 in 12. Take a look at any realistic pool of potential jurors. You'd be hard pressed to find a group of 12 people, especially with the defense participating in the jury selection, that would all vote for the prosecution. The defense has a strong defense. The prosecutor knows this. If DA brings charges to appease the mob, they are then going to have to deal with the backlash of failing at trial (see casey anthony which happened to be in florida too).

    Personally, I dont think the DA is going to do it. I think this is the first step in the letting people down slowly routine. This will put some doubt in people's minds. They let soem time pass and now this. After people react and it dies down a bit, they will gradually keep dropping other hints at no charges until they can safely finally publically announce it.
    Again, we don't know all the evidence. She knows a lot more than we could assume we know. Instead of picking sides and deciding who is innocent and if Zimmerman is telling the truth, maybe we should give this woman the benefit of the doubt and believe she is capable of doing her job in an honest manner. Also, not all the eye witness statements support Zimmerman's claims.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Listening to the radio here it sounds like she would have needed a grand jury if they were going to pursue first degree murder charges only (still would if it came to that). I dont think anyone actually things first degree charges would be warranted so it makes sense not to.
    That's what I read too. A grand jury is needed if pursuing a first degree murder charge is necessary. They are not pursing such a charge. Who knows what they will pursue, but since it doesn't appear to be premeditated, a first degree murder charge isn't the proper charge to begin with. I think she seems capable of doing her job. Hopefully she is professional and Florida has a good DA.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    No, you have it.....ALL wrong

    A $10K bounty on Zimmerman's head? The desire to up the bounty to $1 Mil? Spike Lee tweeting Zimmerman's home address?

    The Sharptons and Jacksons of the world are whipping up this frenzy for *justice*.

    They're, the ones hell bent on race-baiting

    Get your **** straight
    the new black panthers are a couple of guys who are quite possibly the biggest douches or tied for the biggest douches in the US. In fact, they should probably be arrested for putting a bounty on someones head if that's the case.

    Spike Lee was stupid and wrong.

    Al and Jesse, I think you just have a fetish for them and you don't want anyone to know because in this zimmerman/martin thread, you've mentioned them more than the people this topic is about.

    Don't know how many times you need to post that you hate them, we all get the point.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I think you have things a little backward here. People want charges brought come hell or high water. This DA, or the investigators have no obligation to do anything just because the mob says so. They are not required to appease anyone. It is there job to prosecute when they feel a crime has been committed and if they feel they have enough evidence to reasonably believe a conviction is likely. No prosecutor in my mind is going to go to trial with a case they don't think they have a realistic shot at winning.

    Look at the evidence as we know it. I know the investigator certainly has more evidence than we do. But look at what we do have. Eye witnesses, injuries, ect that support Zimmerman's claims. In order to win the defense only has to convince 1 person out of 12 that there is reasonable doubt that Zimmerman did not commit murder. 1 in 12. Take a look at any realistic pool of potential jurors. You'd be hard pressed to find a group of 12 people, especially with the defense participating in the jury selection, that would all vote for the prosecution. The defense has a strong defense. The prosecutor knows this. If DA brings charges to appease the mob, they are then going to have to deal with the backlash of failing at trial (see casey anthony which happened to be in florida too).

    Personally, I dont think the DA is going to do it. I think this is the first step in the letting people down slowly routine. This will put some doubt in people's minds. They let soem time pass and now this. After people react and it dies down a bit, they will gradually keep dropping other hints at no charges until they can safely finally publically announce it.
    You said it - Look at the evidence as we know it. I know the investigator certainly has more evidence than we do - and then you stepped on your own johnson by ignoring what you yourself said.

    If the state attorney had determined that there is not enough evidence to go to trial or if Zimmerman is guilty she would have declared it so and he would be exonerated, that hasn't happened nor has she arrested him.

    As we certainly have no idea what information the state attorney has, we have no possible idea how compelling or facile all the evidence may be. You nor I nor anyone not connected to the investigation knows what they are looking at, what they have found, what they haven't found, what they need to verify or what they have dismissed. It should be obvious that they are not finished with the investigation or we would have the results. All the pap and drivel about being "hard pressed to find a jury..." is a load of tripe. It's meaningless.

    My desire for an outcome would be that they find both men convincingly innocent, at the wrong place at the wrong time on the wrong night under the wrong stars, or as someone said, "a perfect storm." I sincerely hope that will be the outcome and that most people will be able to man up and accept it.










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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    No, you have it.....ALL wrong

    A $10K bounty on Zimmerman's head? The desire to up the bounty to $1 Mil? Spike Lee tweeting Zimmerman's home address?

    The Sharptons and Jacksons of the world are whipping up this frenzy for *justice*.

    They're, the ones hell bent on race-baiting

    Get your **** straight
    Don't pee on our legs and tells us it's raining, ric. Few people here are that uninformed. It is the extremists on both sides. Yes, Sharpton, Black Panthers, yes white nationalists and KKK and others. Racists on both sides. And please don't respond by saying, "Yeah, but....." and then give us anecdotal justification why one side is more racist than the other unless you can document it. Otherwise you would be incorrect and that would be easy to see.

    There are a hell of a lot of people trying to keep the extremists on both sides of issue from becoming AN issue. Many more people - black and white - are in the middle looking and hoping for reason and non-violence than there are on the either side of extremism in this. When anyone starts pointing fingers and saying it's all white people's fault or black people's fault, they themselves by their own actions buy into extremism. I know that isn't your intent. Don't let the extremists lead you down that path, ric.










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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Special prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury in the Trayvon

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Why would anyone in their right mind want this all on them?
    Because that, uh, is their job ?

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