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    Re: Politics Obama administration points to rise in GSA costs under Bush amid confere

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    Re: White House points finger at Bush administration for GSA debacle

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    The abuse took place in 2010.
    Actually -- according to the article in the OP -- the abuse started long before 2010: "the cost of the Western Regional Conference increased sharply under the Bush White House -- from $93,000 in 2004 to $323,855 in 2006 to $655,025 in 2008, then $840,616 in 2010...."

    So the cost of the event increased almost 700% under Bush, and less than 30% under Obama. What's wrong with pionting that out?
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    Re: White House points finger at Bush administration for GSA debacle

    Mr. President, you knew about this, you, not former president bush, has the power to implement change, blaming your failure to act on someone who no longer can fix the problem makes you look like a fool.

    Mr. Bush is no longer the president. Man up.
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    Re: White House points finger at Bush administration for GSA debacle

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    Mr. President, you knew about this, you, not former president bush, has the power to implement change, blaming your failure to act on someone who no longer can fix the problem makes you look like a fool.

    Mr. Bush is no longer the president. Man up.
    Sorry, but it's obvious that Republicans are trying to turn this into a political football. If your team wants to play partisan games, don't whine when the President responds in kind.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: White House points finger at Bush administration for GSA debacle

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Actually -- according to the article in the OP -- the abuse started long before 2010: "the cost of the Western Regional Conference increased sharply under the Bush White House -- from $93,000 in 2004 to $323,855 in 2006 to $655,025 in 2008, then $840,616 in 2010...."

    So the cost of the event increased almost 700% under Bush, and less than 30% under Obama. What's wrong with pionting that out?
    It might be fair then to say both hold blame as neither did anything until it made the news. I wonder who is suppose to be watching this?

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    Re: White House points finger at Bush administration for GSA debacle

    Well I guess the far right finally feels it has found the Silver Bullet to kill the Great Demon President at last?

    Lotsa luck with that as you are gonna need it.

    This tune seems to summarize the national outrage about this story

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    Re: Politics Obama administration points to rise in GSA costs under Bush amid confere

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Considering the President likely found out about this about the same time we did...I would say this is not only accepting responsibility, but addressing the problems:

    " The head of the General Services Administration resigned Monday and two deputies were fired after an internal report revealed excessive spending at a conference.

    GSA Administrator Martha Johnson opted to leave the agency after slightly more than two years on the job. Public Buildings Service chief Robert Peck and Stephen Leeds, an adviser to Johnson, were fired Monday, The Washington Post first reported.

    Four employees involved in organizing an October conference to Las Vegas that cost more than $835,000 and included a clown and mind reader were put on administrative leave.

    White House officials said they weren’t releasing any specific figures on the GSA inspector general’s report, which was expected to be posted in the near future."


    I sometimes wonder if some people think Obama has superpowers and is somehow able to watch everything that happens in Government, control gas prices, stop the worldwide economic problems, Invent some new energy source, and tell the bad guys to stop bein' bad.

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    Re: White House points finger at Bush administration for GSA debacle

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sorry, but it's obvious that Republicans are trying to turn this into a political football. If your team wants to play partisan games, don't whine when the President responds in kind.

    I am not a republican, and I am simply pointing out, the man who can do something about it, is whining about the man who can't. but hey in the world of the partisan hack, pointing out this fact makes me the partisan.
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    Re: Politics Obama administration points to rise in GSA costs under Bush amid confere

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Considering the President likely found out about this about the same time we did...I would say this is not only accepting responsibility, but addressing the problems:

    " The head of the General Services Administration resigned Monday and two deputies were fired after an internal report revealed excessive spending at a conference.

    GSA Administrator Martha Johnson opted to leave the agency after slightly more than two years on the job. Public Buildings Service chief Robert Peck and Stephen Leeds, an adviser to Johnson, were fired Monday, The Washington Post first reported.

    Four employees involved in organizing an October conference to Las Vegas that cost more than $835,000 and included a clown and mind reader were put on administrative leave.

    White House officials said they weren’t releasing any specific figures on the GSA inspector general’s report, which was expected to be posted in the near future."


    I sometimes wonder if some people think Obama has superpowers and is somehow able to watch everything that happens in Government, control gas prices, stop the worldwide economic problems, Invent some new energy source, and tell the bad guys to stop bein' bad.


    "The Inspector General Office’s report last week about the 2010 General Services Administration conference outside of Las Vegas indicates the Obama administration knew about the trip since May 2010. The report was followed by a release of videos."

    Read more: Obama Administration Points To Rise In GSA Costs Under Bush Amid Conference Controversy | Fox News



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    Re: White House points finger at Bush administration for GSA debacle

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Actually -- according to the article in the OP -- the abuse started long before 2010: "the cost of the Western Regional Conference increased sharply under the Bush White House -- from $93,000 in 2004 to $323,855 in 2006 to $655,025 in 2008, then $840,616 in 2010...."

    So the cost of the event increased almost 700% under Bush, and less than 30% under Obama. What's wrong with pionting that out?
    The conference that has come under fire happened in 2010. Whats wrong with accepting fault rather than always diverting blame? Why cant Obama do that? Why are you so incapable of seeing any problems with him? You need to come to terms with things. Not everything that goes wrong is someone elses fault. This conference happened in 2010. Part of being a responsible leader would mean Obama needs to accept responsibility for it. Why is that so hard for you?
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