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    Re: Jobs recovery suffers setback in March

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonI View Post
    Where are all the jobs the GOP promised after the 2010 election? Odd once they took over they stopped talking about jobs and turned their attention to the debt ceiling...wonder why that was...hmmmm...
    The republicans hold one house, congress. And even wield less power when you consider that only 23 of those republicans are elected on the platform of reform toward less government, and they are freshman congressmen. Now, throw in Harry Reid controlling the agenda in the Senate, and Obama refusing to sign things via threat of veto if these measures reach his desk, and you see quickly that it still isn't enough for those republicans to achieve, and overcome the destruction that liberals are putting in place.

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    Re: Jobs recovery suffers setback in March

    Yes liberals, Obama inherited a mess. What is in dispute is this retarded and erroneous notion that things are getting better.

    1) If we had the same Labor Force Participation as when Obama took office, the unemployment rate would be closer to 10.8 %

    2) The number on food stamps sets a new record every month.

    3) We are not only a country propped up by government debt, but Obama has expanded that debt. He is now the debt king of all time, and he did it in less than one term. All Obama has done is kick the can.

    4) Worst of all, we now are the biggest buyers of our own debt. That's Obama crapping in the can before he kicks it.

    Its one big phoney artificial "recovery".

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    Re: Jobs recovery suffers setback in March

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The republicans hold one house, congress. And even wield less power when you consider that only 23 of those republicans are elected on the platform of reform toward less government, and they are freshman congressmen. Now, throw in Harry Reid controlling the agenda in the Senate, and Obama refusing to sign things via threat of veto if these measures reach his desk, and you see quickly that it still isn't enough for those republicans to achieve, and overcome the destruction that liberals are putting in place.

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    Did they propose any real "job creating" legislation that didn't solely rely on tax cuts and getting rid of regulations, which we all know don't work?

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    Re: Jobs recovery suffers setback in March

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Yes liberals, Obama inherited a mess. What is in dispute is this retarded and erroneous notion that things are getting better.

    1) If we had the same Labor Force Participation as when Obama took office, the unemployment rate would be closer to 10.8 %

    2) The number on food stamps sets a new record every month.

    3) We are not only a country propped up by government debt, but Obama has expanded that debt. He is now the debt king of all time, and he did it in less than one term. All Obama has done is kick the can.

    4) Worst of all, we now are the biggest buyers of our own debt. That's Obama crapping in the can before he kicks it.

    Its one big phoney artificial "recovery".
    Any facts to back these items up? According to factcheck.org, more people were added to food stamps under Bush than any other president...

    I didn't look up the others so I'd appreciate your links to back up your statements...

    FactCheck.org : Newt’s Faulty Food-Stamp Claim

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    Re: Jobs recovery suffers setback in March

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Yes liberals, Obama inherited a mess. What is in dispute is this retarded and erroneous notion that things are getting better.

    1) If we had the same Labor Force Participation as when Obama took office, the unemployment rate would be closer to 10.8 %

    2) The number on food stamps sets a new record every month.

    3) We are not only a country propped up by government debt, but Obama has expanded that debt. He is now the debt king of all time, and he did it in less than one term. All Obama has done is kick the can.

    4) Worst of all, we now are the biggest buyers of our own debt. That's Obama crapping in the can before he kicks it.

    Its one big phoney artificial "recovery".
    Although several of your points are correct, there are many facets of the economy that have gotten better since he was elected as pointed out in this thread. If you would prefer to ignore them that is your prerogative.

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    Re: Jobs recovery suffers setback in March

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    We are not only a country propped up by government debt, but Obama has expanded that debt. He is now the debt king of all time, and he did it in less than one term. All Obama has done is kick the can.
    President Ronald reagan tripled the national debt he started with. Has President Obama tripled the debt he started with?
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    Re: Jobs recovery suffers setback in March

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonI View Post
    Did they propose any real "job creating" legislation that didn't solely rely on tax cuts and getting rid of regulations, which we all know don't work?
    Let's stick with the bolded part here, because your caveat aside, the answer would be yes, yes they have....

    The fact that you have to place in the incorrect progressive talking point that "tax cuts don't work" shows that you are only regurgitating what Debbie Wasserman Schultz vomits, and you are there to lick it up.


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    Re: Jobs recovery suffers setback in March

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Fortunately, more and more people just give up trying to find work each month. That's the sign of a very healthy economy. Obamanomics !!!

    Yes, it is in Ubama's fantasy land. His goal to get unemployment down is to get as many as possible to stop looking for work and get as many as he can on the public dole. Cloward - Piven strategy.

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    Re: Jobs recovery suffers setback in March

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    President Ronald reagan tripled the national debt he started with. Has President Obama tripled the debt he started with?
    Ubama Has Increased Debt More than All Presidents from George Washington Through George H.W. Bush Combined
    Obama Has Now Increased Debt More than All Presidents from George Washington Through George H.W. Bush Combined | CNSNews.com

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    Re: Jobs recovery suffers setback in March

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    President Ronald reagan tripled the national debt he started with. Has President Obama tripled the debt he started with?
    Ahhh...The old liberal lie once again....You'd think after being schooled on this for the past 30 years, it would sink in but alas, I guess only that which fits your own preconceived, and indoctrinated notions of what fact is, just so others can see what those facts actually are....Here you go.


    OK, so Obama said … “as far back as the 1980s, America started amassing debt at more alarming levels…” And if you ever have heard about the 1980s, the liberal mantra always has been that “Reagan reduced tax rates on the rich and that caused the national debt to triple”.

    That is nonsense. Here are the numbers again:

    In 1980, when Ronald Reagan was elected, the GDP was $2.79 trillion, and the debt was 32.6% of GDP. In the last full year of Ronald Regan’s tenure in 1988, GDP was $5.1 trillion, and the debt was 51% of GDP.

    So notice that the GDP increased by a whopping 82% over just 8 years under Reagan. That is a huge leap. Under Obama between 2008 and 2010, it increased only about 3%.

    Reagan did cut taxes on “the rich” from 70% to 28%, a drop of 60%. By liberal accounting, that should have caused revenues to the government to fall by 60%. But revenues to the federal treasury went from $517 billion in 1980 to $991 billion in 1989, increasing by 91%. Wow! So indeed, tax cuts on the wealthy did what they always do – they produced economic growth. In 1921, cuts in the top rate from 63% to 25% produced The Roaring 1920s.

    The liberals never, ever want you to know about the huge surge in the economy in the 1980s, and huge gains in employment, more than 20 million jobs. They only like to point out that during Reagan’s presidency the debt increased from $909 billion in 1980 when Reagan was elected to $2.857 trillion by 1989 when Reagan left office. So they always say, “Reagan tripled the national debt because he lowered tax rates”.

    Technically, they can say that that is true, that he tripled the debt. But if you consider the debt increase as a percentage of the whole national wealth (GDP) went from 32.6% to 51%, that is a 59% increase relative to the whole economy, not a 300% increase (tripling) like liberals say. And still, after defeating the Soviet Union with a huge military buildup, the final debt of the Reagan years was only about half (51% of GDP) of what it is today (100% of GDP).

    Yet even this 59% increase in the debt was caused mostly by the Democrats in Congress. Here is how:

    Reagan cut top tax rates which set off an economic boom, causing huge inflows to the treasury. He then spent some of that money on the military to defeat the Soviet Union – certainly some of the best-spent dollars in American history.

    But at the same time, the heavily-Democrat Congress went on a wild spending spree after promising not to, like typical Democrats (the agreement was called TEFRA. You can search it on the internet to read about it). So it was not tax cuts that caused the debt – they caused the boom. And while military spending did cause the debt to rise somewhat, it was the Democrats’ massive spending that really caused the spike.

    Yet Reagan policies have historically been blamed by Democrats like Obama only for the bad things but never for the really big accomplishments which were a booming economy and, most significantly, the defeat of Soviet communism.

    About That ‘Reagan Debt’ | RedState
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