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Jobs recovery suffers setback in March

You don't even know your own subject you claim to be proficient in. Statistics can be made up by anyone. Educate yourself to reading comprehension before shouting out anything.

Actually, 58.3% of statistics are made up on the spot.
 
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I admittedly have not read thru all the pages of this conversation so sorry if I am repeating anything.

I cannot understand why this would be perceived as a negative. We are gaining jobs. Any jobs created is a good thing to me. More jobs would be better but I am personally glad that their are more jobs this month than there were last month. And if next month only goes up by +100 then I will view that as a positive too. As long as we arent going negative things are improving.
 
I admittedly have not read thru all the pages of this conversation so sorry if I am repeating anything.

I cannot understand why this would be perceived as a negative. We are gaining jobs. Any jobs created is a good thing to me. More jobs would be better but I am personally glad that their are more jobs this month than there were last month. And if next month only goes up by +100 then I will view that as a positive too. As long as we arent going negative things are improving.

Our economy and financial markets pretty much require exponential growth. So there doesn't just need to be positive growth. There needs to be a positive RATE of growth. I.e., growth needs to grow.

Long run, we will look like economic
meth heads with bipolar disorder.
 
Our economy and financial markets pretty much require exponential growth. So there doesn't just need to be positive growth. There needs to be a positive RATE of growth. I.e., growth needs to grow.

Long run, we will look like economic
meth heads with bipolar disorder.

I can agree with that to some extent. But keep in mind that not too long ago we were hemorraging jobs. We have to be realistic about our recovery. 400,000 jobs arent going to be created every month. The first step here is to stabilize the economy so that we have consistent growth. I think that is the best we can expect right now.
 
I can agree with that to some extent. But keep in mind that not too long ago we were hemorraging jobs. We have to be realistic about our recovery. 400,000 jobs arent going to be created every month. The first step here is to stabilize the economy so that we have consistent growth. I think that is the best we can expect right now.

Good luck trying to gain power in business or politics being reasonable. Wild optimism has always been more attractive.
 
I don't get it... it's like Republicans are cheering for the economy to go down even though it's bouncing back up. I mean it's struggling on it's way up but there is little question we're improving. I mean if the economy was slowly getting worse and they were harping about it I'd understand - ****, I'd join them - but it's not. What's the deal yo? Do you guys want the economy to fail? Or is it because it's bouncing back up under Obama that you guys are angry?

The fact remains we are still at 8.2% noteven counting the people who have quit looking and there are 1.2 million more people out of a job then there were when GWB left office....
 
By handing out work visa's to the Mexicans rather than trying to jail and deport them all. Then they are working legally and being taxed appropriately to accommodate instead of working illegally and under the table the way our corporate masters prefer.

It was a sarcastic remark. We have enough American's out of work to hire before we hire Mexicans.
 
The true unemployment rate is much higher than the official one. Unemployment numbers do not include people who have given up on looking for work. Nor do they include short-term temporary workers, such as those who were hired by the Obama administration to take the Census (artificially and duplicitously suppressing unemployment figures in the process).


The U6 does. It's 14.5% Black Unemployment Rate at 14.0% for March 2012, Virtually Unchanged from February 2012 and that is not a U6 number.
 
It was a sarcastic remark. We have enough American's out of work to hire before we hire Mexicans.

Well still, if you put them on the legal side of working you can't pay them below minimum wage anymore. Then, as an employer would you rather hire an American with practically a guaranteed level of education background or a Mexican crossing the border when the wage is the same?
 
Well still, if you put them on the legal side of working you can't pay them below minimum wage anymore. Then, as an employer would you rather hire an American with practically a guaranteed level of education background or a Mexican crossing the border when the wage is the same?


Doesn't matter, the bottom line is that illegal, is illegal. Hey, here is an idea, instead of trumping up faux charges, and sending in the stormtroopers against a 100 year old Guitar maker, why not go after all these illegal immigrant hiring businesses?


j-mac
 
Doesn't matter, the bottom line is that illegal, is illegal. Hey, here is an idea, instead of trumping up faux charges, and sending in the stormtroopers against a 100 year old Guitar maker, why not go after all these illegal immigrant hiring businesses?


j-mac

Well that's kind of a blind-sided off topic rant.

1) it wouldn't be illegal if it were legal work like I was stating with a legal work permit.
2) I agree. The bottleneck to go after is the employers not the employees. Easier target and if the jobs aren't there, illegal employees won't come.
 
Well that's kind of a blind-sided off topic rant.

Sorry, was I supposed to dance?

1) it wouldn't be illegal if it were legal work like I was stating with a legal work permit.

Wudda, cudda, shoudda...Let's stick with facts.

2) I agree. The bottleneck to go after is the employers not the employees. Easier target and if the jobs aren't there, illegal employees won't come.

See, who says that libs and conservatives can't agree.

j-mac
 
The fact remains we are still at 8.2% noteven counting the people who have quit looking and there are 1.2 million more people out of a job then there were when GWB left office....

And that has absolutely nothing to do with who is President.


Unless of course, you think we have been living under a Socialist Economy this whole time where the Government has direct control over all aspects of the workforce.....
 
And that has absolutely nothing to do with who is President.


Unless of course, you think we have been living under a Socialist Economy this whole time where the Government has direct control over all aspects of the workforce.....

On the other hand, Obama has no problem trying to take credit for any one-tenth of a reduction in the unemployment rate when he conducts his campaign speeches. Perhaps HE'S the one who thinks we are living under a Socialist Economy?
 
And that has absolutely nothing to do with who is President.


Unless of course, you think we have been living under a Socialist Economy this whole time where the Government has direct control over all aspects of the workforce.....

So government policy, impacting such as the Keystone Pipleline, the EPA, lack of debt control, Obamacare ... etc ... all of which have major impact on the economy, business expansion, jobs, etc., is not influenced by the President and his party's control in Congress.

No cigar for you.
 
On the other hand, Obama has no problem trying to take credit for any one-tenth of a reduction in the unemployment rate when he conducts his campaign speeches. Perhaps HE'S the one who thinks we are living under a Socialist Economy?

Of course he is going to do that, he is a politician.

We can't let politicians convince us to think like them....... That is how they get more power over our lives.
 
So government policy, impacting such as the Keystone Pipleline, the EPA, lack of debt control, Obamacare ... etc ... all of which have major impact on the economy, business expansion, jobs, etc., is not influenced by the President and his party's control in Congress.

No cigar for you.

Im not saying it doesn't have an influence......

I'm saying its not in full control of the government.
 
Im not saying it doesn't have an influence......

I'm saying its not in full control of the government.

OK. But bad government does stifle job creation, where less (aka "good") government enables job creation. Obama is bad government. That was the original point made, before this journey into irrelevent hyper-folly.
 
OK. But bad government does stifle job creation, where less (aka "good") government enables job creation. Obama is bad government. That was the original point made, before this journey into irrelevent hyper-folly.

Sometimes economic "progress"needs to take a back seat to pragmatic considerations. Such is the case of the keystone pipe line. The reason being is that the pipe would cut through a very large fresh water aquifer that its used for drinking and farming and is the main one for the state in question. should the pipe leek the impact would be catastrophic. Not worth the risk and the only reason its done is because its cheaper to cut through.


Personally, that's one of the best decisions Obama made especially since it was the wrong political move to make
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Sometimes economic "progress"needs to take a back seat to pragmatic considerations. Such is the case of the keystone pipe line. The reason being is that the pipe would cut through a very large fresh water aquifer that its used for drinking and farming and is the main one for the state in question. should the pipe leek the impact would be catastrophic. Not worth the risk and the only reason its done is because its cheaper to cut through.


Personally, that's one of the best decisions Obama made especially since it was the wrong political move to make
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Pffft if it leaks that just creates more jobs...Someone has to clean up the mess.
 
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