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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    Since I have statistics to back what I say, it's you that is full of bull****.
    You apparently don't get it....

    Lets say, I'm looking for a serial killer....

    Would I target, the B/M/F or the W/M/F?

    I'd be profiling, the W/M, preferably unmarried thats because statistically, the majority of serial killers aren't black men/women nor white women, they're white males.

    I analyze my data first, but if I decide to profile on race before analyzing my data then, you can call me a racist

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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Statistics do not prove intent.

    I don't know how many times it has to be said, I have said it plenty but.. whatever.

    You can't look at a statistic and then draw the conclusion you want to from it without having facts to support your drawn conclusion. There are way to many factors involved in a traffic stop, as there are way to many reasons why a stop is conducted. The same with searches. For example, if a consent search is asked and refused, then it isn't added to the statistics.......if it is granted, then it is added to the statistics.
    Those statistics are the best fact there is. When they all point to the same thing, there's something to it. Consent search is about 1-2% according to one of those article, trying to use that to invalidate the other 98% is just another evidence of you choosing to bury your head up your ass so you don't have to face evidence that contradict your beliefs/arguements. So what is those refused are not entered? They all still say the same thing: different races fare differently during police traffic stops.
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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Oh so you witnessed this? Because we all know racial profiling never happens. Oh wait.

    So the truth is you don't know what really happened and you are assuming you do?
    If it is true the side windows were tinted dark, how did the officer see him to profile him in the first place?

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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Whose perception is it that "blacks are more likely to be criminals because they make up a large number of the criminal population" ?

    Who are you having the pleasure of speaking on behalf of here?

    The system that results in blacks being stopped 12.6 more than white in certain district, and you and MaggiD seem to share the perception that blacks are more likely to be lawbreakers:


    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Right Back Atcha...

    Do you have proof these black folks are getting pulled over because they are black and for no other reason?
    Do you have proof that more arrests is not evident of breaking more laws?

    Do you expect us to ASSume the "suggestive" evidence the way YOU want us to view it?
    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The idea they're pulled over more has nothing to do with they break traffic laws more? No. It couldn't be that.

    Oh, there's a black guy. I think I'll pull him over. Give me a break!

    So we should believe that blacks are up to 12.6 times more likely to break traffic law than whites, subjected to searches more often than whites, and yet found to have contraband at a lesser rate than whites, because they are more likely to break traffic laws than whites. I'm not the one making a logical leap here.
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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    You apparently don't get it....

    Lets say, I'm looking for a serial killer....

    Would I target, the B/M/F or the W/M/F?

    I'd be profiling, the W/M, preferably unmarried thats because statistically, the majority of serial killers aren't black men/women nor white women, they're white males.

    I analyze my data first, but if I decide to profile on race before analyzing my data then, you can call me a racist

    You apparently don't even get my arguement. Until you do, don't ambarrass yourself with more ignorant replies.
    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post

    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

    Brian

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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    racial profiling is real.

    mistreatment of blacks by police, because they are black, is real.

    that's the first thing we all must accept.
    What does that have to do with this case?

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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    We are getting to the point that white cops can't pull over or arrest black people. Anytime a white person in authority interacts with someone of color it seems they are screaming racism or investigating it or something.

    I think it is the reverse. If blacks keep yelling profiling when it doesn't happen, nobody will be listening when it actually does happen.

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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Don't have to. Here is Mel Gibson blaming the Jews for you know... everything wrong with the world:

    Gibson's Anti-Semitic Tirade -- Alleged Cover Up | TMZ.com

    Oscar didn't make any threads on that... - I wonder why? I guess it's not the right type of racism for him.
    The Gibson incident happened in July of 2006 and Oscar has been a member here since September 2010. How could he have posted anything about it?

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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    Can't blame the cops for doing their jobs.

    Can't really blame Tyler Perry for the natural psychological consequences of generations worth of racism either.

    We are basically only 40 years from black people finally being treated as equals in this country. I don't think it's all that unexpected or unreasonable for black people to continue to be a little paranoid about it. Rather than attacking Perry, people should point out in a reasoned manner why this was not an incident of racial profiling.
    You assume every time a white officer interacts with a black person, it is profiling?

    How can the officer prove, to you, that it was not profiling?

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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If a person is pulled over who isn't breaking the law, he may have a legitimate claim for racial profiling that should be investigated. And that's the guy that should probably file a complaint. A series of such complaints against an officer would prove a pattern. If he's ticketed for having illegally tinted windows and driving irratically, any claim of racial profiling goes out the window, in my opinion. If the person was breaking the law, he doesn't have a leg to stand on. Period. No matter what his perception.
    After rewading the thread up to here, it came to me that Perry might think he wouldn't have been pulled over for an illegal turn if it had been a black cop. I wonder how he could think that.

    If he says he was only pulled over because the officers were white, then he has to be saying he wouldn't have been pulled over if the officers had been of another race, illegal moves not withstanding.

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