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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Why do you think that people need to legitimize their claims by reporting to you? I don't understand that sentiment. As far as racial profiling goes, it's nearly impossible to prove objectively. Consequently, neither you nor I KNOW if someone is racial profiling. Therefore, if you say, "He's not profiling" and I say, "Yes, he is," we both are giving OPINIONS. You're arguing that your OPINION is better than other peoples' OPINIONS and that people should prove their opinions to you. That doesn't make any sense.
    Your statement applies to about everthing that goes on DP. and that is my opinion.
    So I agree, you make no sense

    as far as racial profiling, only those involved know for sure.
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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

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    No, MaggieD is passive aggressively distorting people's arguments and I'm just letting her know.
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    But nobody said that.
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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Your statement applies to about everthing that goes on DP. and that is my opinion.
    So I agree, you make no sense
    Touche. But I don't think people have to come to me to make their opinions legitimate. I might argue a lot, but at the end of the day, I know that people's opinions are founded by their experiences which is why though I can't imagine adopting a lot of conservative stances for myself, I understand that people have different experiences than me and therefore, those stances make sense to them in that context. This is why Caine's insistence that other people legitimize their opinions by reporting to him is so ridiculous to me.

    as far as racial profiling, only those involved know for sure.
    Exactly my point. If only those involved know for sure, then it doesn't make sense to tell people what they have or have not experienced.

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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    So if you don't have any evidence, then why would you say that blacks break more traffic laws as a fact and not a mere opinion?

    What are you basing this on?

    (And yes, making negative generalizations about entire race is a snipe. Also, there's nothing racial about making generalizations about races without evidence.)
    Whites drive even more crazy than blacks.

    I know I'm "stereotyping" but hey, I can't deny what I see.
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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    So police do racial profiling.

    BTW, while you concentrate on the criminals, keep in mind that the majority of black people are not criminals but innocent bystanders or victims themselves.
    nonpareil - Profiling is a misunderstood and erroneously oversimplified catch word thrown around by those that don’t’ understand what it truly is

    Criminal NOT racial profiling is what investigators do. It is about far more than a person’s race, religion and sex.

    Identifying traits, characteristics, mannerisms and behavior common in criminal acts. Then going out and looking for those specific behaviors in the population IS criminal profiling NOT racial profiling. To suggest profiling is limited to race, religion or sex is profoundly ignorant and demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of its real world application.

    Know the difference and remember...its criminal profiling.

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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    nonpareil - Profiling is a misunderstood and erroneously oversimplified catch word thrown around by those that don’t’ understand what it truly is

    Criminal NOT racial profiling is what investigators do. It is about far more than a person’s race, religion and sex.

    Identifying traits, characteristics, mannerisms and behavior common in criminal acts. Then going out and looking for those specific behaviors in the population IS criminal profiling NOT racial profiling. To suggest profiling is limited to race, religion or sex is profoundly ignorant and demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of its real world application.

    Know the difference and remember...its criminal profiling.

    When you use race to profile someone, you are using "racial profiling", understand what those two words together means and read what the thread is about. Nobody said that profiling is limited to race, religion or sex, so keep your strawman to yourself. None of that changes the fact that police use racial profiling which affect blacks and Latinos more than Whites, a fact bear out overwhelmingly by the statistics. Unless you claim that black people act suspiciously more often than white people do, the fact remains that police stop blacks more often than white because they are black and blacks happen to be responsible for most crimes even though most blacks are innocent of those crimes.
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    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The idea they're pulled over more has nothing to do with they break traffic laws more? No. It couldn't be that.

    Oh, there's a black guy. I think I'll pull him over. Give me a break!
    How about you read the article linked:

    Koster says despite minorities being pulled over and searched at a higher rate, it’s white drivers who are more likely to be caught with contraband.

    snip.

    Despite the elevated search rates, Hispanics were less likely than white drivers to be found with contraband subsequent to being searched. While the “contraband hit rate” for whites was 24.5 percent, the percentage of Hispanics searched and found to have contraband was 14.4 percent. The “contraband hit rate” for African-American drivers was 17.5 percent.

    When police asked permission to search a driver's car without probable cause — something that is rare for all racial categories — it was more likely to be a minority driver. Police used "consent searches" for 0.6 percent of white drivers, compared to 1.4 percent of black drivers and 1.3 percent of Hispanics.

    Police were more likely to find contraband material, such as drugs or weapons, in the cars of white drivers, according to the study. The chances were 25 percent for white drivers who agreed to a search, 19 percent for blacks and 13 percent for Hispanics.

    Read more: Black, Hispanic drivers stopped more often in Illinois, study finds

    So who's being brainwashed about the facts? Maybe you should question your own notions about other races.
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    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    When you use race to profile someone, you are using "racial profiling", understand what those two words together means and read what the thread is about. Nobody said that profiling is limited to race, religion or sex, so keep your strawman to yourself. None of that changes the fact that police use racial profiling which affect blacks and Latinos more than Whites, a fact bear out overwhelmingly by the statistics. Unless you claim that black people act suspiciously more often than white people do, the fact remains that police stop blacks more often than white because they are black and blacks happen to be responsible for most crimes even though most blacks are innocent of those crimes.
    Sitting behind your keyboard and telling me how profiling actually works in the real world...You gotta be kiddin' me lol


    Pros that actually do criminal investigations and utilize CRIMMINAL profiling as one of MANY investigative tools will continue to do the job.


    Carry on with your bull ****.

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    Re: Tyler Perry Pulled Over, Accuses White Cops of Racial Profiling via Facebook

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If a person is pulled over who isn't breaking the law, he may have a legitimate claim for racial profiling that should be investigated. And that's the guy that should probably file a complaint. A series of such complaints against an officer would prove a pattern. If he's ticketed for having illegally tinted windows and driving irratically, any claim of racial profiling goes out the window, in my opinion. If the person was breaking the law, he doesn't have a leg to stand on. Period. No matter what his perception.
    Police can call someone over for a lot of reasons, and once stopped, they can always find something wrong if they want to or let the person go even when there's something wrong. It's not about a single police officer, the statistics concern the whole system. It's not about overt racism, it's about the perception that blacks are more likely to be criminals because they make up a large number of the criminal population, despite the fact that most blacks are not criminal. Your jumping to the conclusion that blacks might be stopped more often because they break the laws more often instead of reading the articles to find out what the true facts are is exactly the thinking that results in racial profiling.
    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post

    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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