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    White House releases USD 1.5 bln aid to Egypt, meets Brotherhood figures

    KUNA : White House releases USD 1.5 bln aid to Egypt, meets Brotherhood figures - Politics - 05/04/2012

    I have given the POTUS the benefit of the doubt for the majority of his term in office, but if there is one thing I can not support it is the funding of theocratic groups who support barbarism and oppression straight out of the 7th century which is exactly what the POTUS has done by releasing this $1.5 Billion in U.S. taxpayer dollars to the Qutbist/Salafist ruled Egyptian government.

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    Re: Obama Releases $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormageddon View Post
    KUNA : White House releases USD 1.5 bln aid to Egypt, meets Brotherhood figures - Politics - 05/04/2012

    I have given the POTUS the benefit of the doubt for the majority of his term in office, but if there is one thing I can not support it is the funding of theocratic groups who support barbarism and oppression straight out of the 7th century which is exactly what the POTUS has done by releasing this $1.5 Billion in U.S. taxpayer dollars to the Qutbist/Salafist ruled Egyptian government.
    Although the Muslim Brotherhood isn't worth defending against criticism, your title is quite misleading seeing as we're simply giving foreign aid to the country itself not a particular group or subset of individuals. Funding a notoriously violent group (Hypothetically and indirectly that is, since we have absolutely no way of knowing how the money will be allocated) is immoral in my opinion, but then again so is funding a dictator for several decades in the same country.
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    Re: Obama Releases $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Although the Muslim Brotherhood isn't worth defending against criticism, your title is quite misleading seeing as we're simply giving foreign aid to the country itself not a particular group or subset of individuals.
    That's like saying that giving foreign aid to Nazi Germany wouldn't be funding the Nazi's themselves, the Qutbists and Salafists are now the overwhelming majority within the Egyptian government.

    Funding a notoriously violent group (Hypothetically and indirectly that is, since we have absolutely no way of knowing how the money will be allocated) is immoral in my opinion, but then again so is funding a dictator for several decades in the same country.
    That dictator at least kept the tenuous peace with Israel; whereas, the MB says they will not respect the treaty and we now have rocket fire coming from the Sinai.

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    Re: Obama Releases $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormageddon View Post
    That's like saying that giving foreign aid to Nazi Germany wouldn't be funding the Nazi's themselves, the Qutbists and Salafists are now the overwhelming majority within the Egyptian government.



    That dictator at least kept the tenuous peace with Israel; whereas, the MB says they will not respect the treaty and we now have rocket fire coming from the Sinai.
    You may make that comparison if you would like, but it's a little bit of a stretch for me at this point and time seeing as we haven't had any amount of time or actual legislative action to judge the true motives of the elected representatives themselves.

    Supporting a dictator no matter how benevolent to Israel, is no more virtuous than supporting rebels, radicals, or whatever you may wish to label them as.
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    Re: Obama Releases $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    You may make that comparison if you would like, but it's a little bit of a stretch for me at this point and time seeing as we haven't had any amount of time or actual legislative action to judge the true motives of the elected representatives themselves.

    Supporting a dictator no matter how benevolent to Israel, is no more virtuous than supporting rebels, radicals, or whatever you may wish to label them as.
    Judge the true motives of the Muslim Brotherhood? Really?
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    Re: Obama Releases $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt

    So the US govt. has to borrow approx. 40% of tthe 1.5Billion. and what will we get for it?

    Does Obama really think the Egyptian people will remember or be thankfull to the American people?

    I don't think so.
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    Re: Obama Releases $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormageddon View Post
    KUNA : White House releases USD 1.5 bln aid to Egypt, meets Brotherhood figures - Politics - 05/04/2012

    I have given the POTUS the benefit of the doubt for the majority of his term in office, but if there is one thing I can not support it is the funding of theocratic groups who support barbarism and oppression straight out of the 7th century which is exactly what the POTUS has done by releasing this $1.5 Billion in U.S. taxpayer dollars to the Qutbist/Salafist ruled Egyptian government.
    We are in debt.It doesn't matter what kind of group it is. The president shouldn't be giving out cash to other countries.
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    Re: Obama Releases $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    You may make that comparison if you would like, but it's a little bit of a stretch for me at this point and time seeing as we haven't had any amount of time or actual legislative action to judge the true motives of the elected representatives themselves.
    The MB has a long and notorious track record, they stand for what they have always stood for which is pan-Islamism, and puritanical theocratic rule. Their motto: "God is our objective; the Quran is our constitution, the Prophet is our leader; Jihad is our way; and death for the sake of God is the highest of our aspirations."

    Supporting a dictator no matter how benevolent to Israel, is no more virtuous than supporting rebels, radicals, or whatever you may wish to label them as.
    I would rather live under a secular dictatorship than a theocracy and I'm sure the minorities of Egypt would agree.

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    Re: Obama Releases $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt

    Obama probably thinks he's buying some measure of protection.

    For someone everyone says is so smart, he seems rather dumb to me...kind of like Chamberlain was.
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    Re: Obama Releases $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Obama probably thinks he's buying some measure of protection.
    Must be stressful to see the worst possible motivations in everything the president does.
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