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    Re: White House releases USD 1.5 bln aid to Egypt, meets Brotherhood figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Oh sorry he said viable reason with references, not rehashed political propaganda that has no basis in reality.
    Tell me what other President would meet with a known leader of a terrorist group in the WH?

    Oh, and BTW, you nor Connery are the arbiters of what is, or is not acceptable....If you think you are then you need help.

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    Re: White House releases USD 1.5 bln aid to Egypt, meets Brotherhood figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormageddon View Post
    Um no the military is able to have the power which they currently wield due to the current wording of their Constitution once the Constitution is changed they will have to work within that legal framework as well once the Constitution is ratified the military will no longer control Egypt but rather will become a tool within the MB and Salafist government.
    The military in Egypt is not under civilian control. If the generals wanted to coup the government, the soldiers would follow their orders and to hell with whatever the constitution says. The military has sensibly decided to allow a more democratic government to stabilize the country and avoid the consequences of a bloody crackdown, not because they are willing to give up their power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormageddon View Post
    Liberal compared to what? Do they only want to kill half of the gays, apostates, and adulterers? Do they only want to conquer half of the world through offensive Jihad? Do they only want half of the Koran to be the new Egyptian Constitution? Just what in the hell by any reasonable definition of the word makes them liberal?
    They respect democratic ideals such as allowing women to have equal rights, popular elected governments, not staying unnecessary wars etc

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    Hayek - too liberal for republicans

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    Re: White House releases USD 1.5 bln aid to Egypt, meets Brotherhood figures

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The military in Egypt is not under civilian control.
    It was until Mubarak stepped down, the Generals answered to him just as they will answer to the next president within the constitutional framework established by the MB and the Salafists.

    If the generals wanted to coup the government, the soldiers would follow their orders and to hell with whatever the constitution says.
    The military has been working within the current legal framework under the present Constitution just as they will with the next Constitution.

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    Re: White House releases USD 1.5 bln aid to Egypt, meets Brotherhood figures

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    They respect democratic ideals such as allowing women to have equal rights,
    Complete and utter lie proven by their overt support of Sharia law.

    popular elected governments,
    Complete and utter lie proven by their support of the Koran as the Constitution.

    not staying unnecessary wars etc
    Complete and utter lie proven by the fact that they have stated they will not respect the peace treaty with Israel and from their long standing motto "Jihad is our way; and death for the sake of God is the highest of our aspirations."

    In fact everything you have just stated is completely contradicted by their motto:

    "God is our objective; the Quran is our constitution, the Prophet is our leader; Jihad is our way; and death for the sake of God is the highest of our aspirations."


    Sound moderate to you? Sound like democratic values to you? Honestly I don't know where you people come up with this utter nonsense.
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    Re: White House releases USD 1.5 bln aid to Egypt, meets Brotherhood figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormageddon View Post
    It was until Mubarak stepped down, the Generals answered to him just as they will answer to the next president within the constitutional framework established by the MB and the Salafists.
    The military didn't follow Mubarak out of any kind of respect for the office of president, he was a power broker who rewarded them for supporting him. If the new government doesn't cut the same kind of deal, they aren't going to last.

    The military has been working within the current legal framework under the present Constitution just as they will with the next Constitution.
    The Egyptian military has engaged in wholesale murder, torture and imprisonment when dealing with the Muslim brotherhood in the last 40 years. Popular pressure for democracy has forced them to make certain reforms, not any kind of respect for democratic rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormageddon View Post
    Complete and utter lie proven by their overt support of Sharia law.



    Complete and utter lie proven by their support of the Koran as the Constitution.



    Complete and utter lie proven by the fact that they have stated they will not respect the peace treaty with Israel and from their long standing motto "Jihad is our way; and death for the sake of God is the highest of our aspirations."

    In fact everything you have just stated is completely contradicted by their motto:

    "God is our objective; the Quran is our constitution, the Prophet is our leader; Jihad is our way; and death for the sake of God is the highest of our aspirations."


    Sound moderate to you? Sound like democratic values to you? Honestly I don't know where you people come up with this utter nonsense.
    You don't know enough about the history of the MB just what you've been spoon fed. Open a book and read. MB is fairly liberal. I should be clear, the MB of Egypt is anyways. Its splintered.

    The difference between a democrat and a republican is who owes the favor, the politican or the business
    Last edited by xpiher; 04-08-12 at 04:36 PM.
    Hayek - too liberal for republicans

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    Re: White House releases USD 1.5 bln aid to Egypt, meets Brotherhood figures

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    You don't know enough about the history of the MB just what you've been spoon fed.
    I doubt you even know who Sayyid Qutb is.

    Open a book and read.
    Open Milestones and read it pal it's the Muslim Mein Kampf.

    MB is fairly liberal.
    Compared to ****ing what?

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    Re: White House releases USD 1.5 bln aid to Egypt, meets Brotherhood figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormageddon View Post
    KUNA : White House releases USD 1.5 bln aid to Egypt, meets Brotherhood figures - Politics - 05/04/2012

    I have given the POTUS the benefit of the doubt for the majority of his term in office, but if there is one thing I can not support it is the funding of theocratic groups who support barbarism and oppression straight out of the 7th century which is exactly what the POTUS has done by releasing this $1.5 Billion in U.S. taxpayer dollars to the Qutbist/Salafist ruled Egyptian government.
    Both Egypt and Jordan are among the largest recipients of US foreign aid - and the reason is obvious.

    They are Arab nations being "bought off" to leave Israel alone.

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    Re: Obama Releases $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Obama probably thinks he's buying some measure of protection.

    For someone everyone says is so smart, he seems rather dumb to me...kind of like Chamberlain was.
    Obama is smart that's why he is mislaying the peoples problems

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