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Connecticut Senate votes to abolish death penalty amid victim concerns

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The 20-16 Senate vote is a major victory for the proposal, which would make life imprisonment the maximum penalty in the state. The proposal is expected to easily pass the state House of Representatives, and Democratic Gov. Dannel P. Malloy has said he would sign the legislation into law if it reaches his desk.



Read more: Connecticut Senate Votes To Abolish Death Penalty Amid Victim Concerns | Fox News
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I am actually shocked that CT would do this now. No, I am not shocked that CT would get rid of its death penalty, but that it would do it now. Turmoil still exists from the Home Invasion murders in CT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire,_Connecticut,_home_invasion_murders

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/23/connecticut-home-invasion-killer-claims-to-have-murdered-17-people-according-to/

There is no question to these two guys guilt. These are the people CT wants killed, so again, I find the ruling surprising.
 
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Good for them.
 
The politicians of the State of Connecticut (where I grew up) have been unwilling to actually USE the death penalty, so why bother to have it still on the books? I am a STRONG proponent of the death penalty but if you aren't actually going to kill these people there is no reason to waste everyone's time having it as part of the law.

Just another proof that New England is truly living up to its name.... A New version of the same old English liberalism and socialism that has been killing this country for a century and a half.
 
Moving forward.
 
How very not barbaric of them.

I believe that every state that holds executions should have an executioner, not a group of guys that pull levers simultaneously. Not a firing squad with only one live round rifle. A real Grim Reaper without a hood to protect to their identity. Someone who can claim to be almost God.

If we can't have that, something is wrong with killing the guilty along with the innocent.
 
Mickey Shane said:
How very not barbaric of them.

I believe that every state that holds executions should have an executioner, not a group of guys that pull levers simultaneously. Not a firing squad with only one live round rifle. A real Grim Reaper without a hood to protect to their identity. Someone who can claim to be almost God.

If we can't have that, something is wrong with killing the guilty along with the innocent.
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I am sure the Doctor from Chesire would pull the lever. They raped his wife and daughters and left them to burn to death.
 
I'm in favor of this and I'm not sure why it matters that victims are concerned about this. They aren't the only people in the state.
 
This idea that victims require or deserve violent retribution is frankly disgusting. We should stop using people who are in pain as an excuse to justify killing people. Senator Prague is absolutely correct. The only way to ensure that you don't execute any innocent people is not to execute anyone at all. By all means, keep violent criminals locked up. But don't turn us all into killers.
 
Paschendale said:
This idea that victims require or deserve violent retribution is frankly disgusting. We should stop using people who are in pain as an excuse to justify killing people. Senator Prague is absolutely correct. The only way to ensure that you don't execute any innocent people is not to execute anyone at all. By all means, keep violent criminals locked up. But don't turn us all into killers.
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On the other hand, after thousands of years of domestication, there is still only one way to deal with a mad dog. And it's not the dog's fault he got sick.
 
Diogenes said:
On the other hand, after thousands of years of domestication, there is still only one way to deal with a mad dog. And it's not the dog's fault he got sick.
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But then again, humans ain't dogs.
 
Tigger said:
The politicians of the State of Connecticut (where I grew up) have been unwilling to actually USE the death penalty, so why bother to have it still on the books? I am a STRONG proponent of the death penalty but if you aren't actually going to kill these people there is no reason to waste everyone's time having it as part of the law.

Just another proof that New England is truly living up to its name.... A New version of the same old English liberalism and socialism that has been killing this country for a century and a half.
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Since the 1860s? What liberalism is that?
 
I am fine with Life in Jail, but I always wonder about the "amenities" that are provided in jail.
 
Paschendale said:
This idea that victims require or deserve violent retribution is frankly disgusting. We should stop using people who are in pain as an excuse to justify killing people. Senator Prague is absolutely correct. The only way to ensure that you don't execute any innocent people is not to execute anyone at all. By all means, keep violent criminals locked up. But don't turn us all into killers.
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As a former CT resident, I don't find this at all surprising. I remember very well the way the state treated David Peterson, the man who stabbed a 9 year old girl 34 times in broad daylight on Main St in my hometown in the summer of 1989. Connecticut refuses to even protect its own employees, as I seem to remember at least one cop-killer having a death sentence commuted to life in prison.

There are two types of people in the world Paschendale.... Predators and Prey. I prefer to be the first. You apparently prefer to be the second.


Diogenes said:
On the other hand, after thousands of years of domestication, there is still only one way to deal with a mad dog. And it's not the dog's fault he got sick.
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Exactly. You don't try to reason with a mad dog. You don't lock it away somewhere and try to make it feel better. You deal with it.


Ikari said:
But then again, humans ain't dogs.
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True. I have much more respect for the life of most animals.
 
As a conservative, I don't think the government should get to decide who has to die. Limited government is the best way to go.
 
Dittohead not! said:
As a conservative, I don't think the government should get to decide who has to die. Limited government is the best way to go.
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That only works when your citizens are decent enough to do the right things on their own. US Citizens aren't worth a bottle of warm spit combined so far as I'm concerned.
 
Tigger said:
That only works when your citizens are decent enough to do the right things on their own. US Citizens aren't worth a bottle of warm spit combined so far as I'm concerned.
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I typically rate us higher than that, but I am a big homer like that.
 
Tigger said:
That only works when your citizens are decent enough to do the right things on their own. US Citizens aren't worth a bottle of warm spit combined so far as I'm concerned.
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Why do you hate America?
 
I think the death penalty is an acceptable punishment where someone has shown a supreme indifference to the right of life of others (multiple different events showing a pattern of ruthless, cold-blooded behavior) and the murder has been proven beyond certainty. In other words, people like Hitler or Osama bin Laden should be executable. I do not think it is appropriate for the death penalty to be imposed in other situations, however.
 
Tigger said:
The politicians of the State of Connecticut (where I grew up) have been unwilling to actually USE the death penalty, so why bother to have it still on the books? I am a STRONG proponent of the death penalty but if you aren't actually going to kill these people there is no reason to waste everyone's time having it as part of the law.

Just another proof that New England is truly living up to its name.... A New version of the same old English liberalism and socialism that has been killing this country for a century and a half.
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The serial killer of teenagers, John Wayne Gacey, spent more time alive on Death Row than the lifetimes of his victims. If we can't have speedy and cheap executions, we should return to the idea of "paying one's debt to society" by letting these people free if they participate in risky medical research, which will save more lives than the condemned themselves took.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
I'm in favor of this and I'm not sure why it matters that victims are concerned about this. They aren't the only people in the state.
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With this fear of fighting back, other people in the state are all in danger of becoming victims. But it may be too late to turn around our society's suicidal tendencies. Let's work on that basic cause rather than superficially protest its symptoms.
 
PrometheusBound said:
The serial killer of teenagers, John Wayne Gacey, spent more time alive on Death Row than the lifetimes of his victims. If we can't have speedy and cheap executions, we should return to the idea of "paying one's debt to society" by letting these people free if they participate in risky medical research, which will save more lives than the condemned themselves took.
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Either you're trying to play "Who can be the most barbaric" or you were raised by Tigger. I'm not sure which one I'd prefer given your capitalization of "Death Row".
 
To spend your years in a cage, never to have a drink, love a woman, pet a cat is a greater punishment than death. Dead people are not bored, nor do they suffer.
 
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