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    Re: Connecticut Senate votes to abolish death penalty amid victim concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    In the CT case, I would argue that the killers are worse that dogs.
    Dehumanization is the first step in killing; of course you'd say that.
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    Re: Connecticut Senate votes to abolish death penalty amid victim concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    Some are subhuman dogmeat. Anyone who identifies with these malignant mutations betrays humanity.
    I think it's quite the opposite in fact.
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    Re: Connecticut Senate votes to abolish death penalty amid victim concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    I like dogs and I would value their lives more than many of those scumbags on death rows.
    That's a rather sick argument, IMO; but whatever.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Connecticut Senate votes to abolish death penalty amid victim concerns

    Manson & Speck do seem to contradict my theory. I'm not sure why some prisons allow entertainment. Still, look at people like Pollard that are in a REAL prison.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Have you checked with Charlie Manson for his opinion on that subject?

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    Re: Connecticut Senate votes to abolish death penalty amid victim concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    What does Manson have to do with this conversation?
    He's a serial murderer who has spent most of his life in prison. Does he share your opinion that prison is a fate worse than death?
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    Re: Connecticut Senate votes to abolish death penalty amid victim concerns

    The big problem with the State executing a citizen is the burden to make sure without a doubt, not just legally sanctioned, the citizen isn't innocent. I realize a trail is held but I also realize that mostly means the bare legal requirement was met on the defendant's behalf. These days as more and more convicted citizens are found not guilty due to a third party testing the DNA that wasn't able or thought necessary to obtain the conviction.

    Now I understand some are quite the cynic, tough guy, harden soul, foo-fightin fool on the internet.

    But I believe we are all good Christian folk here...

    Time for my meds

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    Re: Connecticut Senate votes to abolish death penalty amid victim concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    He's a serial murderer who has spent most of his life in prison. Does he share your opinion that prison is a fate worse than death?
    Actually, he's not.

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    Re: Connecticut Senate votes to abolish death penalty amid victim concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's a rather sick argument, IMO; but whatever.
    That I value the lives of most dogs over people like Richard Allen Davis and Lawrence (pliers) Bittaker is not an argument. It is a personal judgement and your opinion is invariably irrelevant to it - simple really.

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    Re: Connecticut Senate votes to abolish death penalty amid victim concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    That I value the lives of most dogs over people like Richard Allen Davis and Lawrence (pliers) Bittaker is not an argument. It is a personal judgement and your opinion is invariably irrelevant to it - simple really.
    Well it's a rather sick judgement. Humans are never lower than animals. The only reason people say so is to dehumanize an individual so that they can kill them guilt free. Common tactic. Endorsed by pro-choice, pro-war, pro-death penalty, etc sort of folk. Dehumanize to kill. I find it sickening.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Connecticut Senate votes to abolish death penalty amid victim concerns

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well it's a rather sick judgement. Humans are never lower than animals. The only reason people say so is to dehumanize an individual so that they can kill them guilt free. Common tactic. Endorsed by pro-choice, pro-war, pro-death penalty, etc sort of folk. Dehumanize to kill. I find it sickening.
    Ok, it's a sick judgement to you. I suppose that's fair enough, but I cannot bring myself to care or take your feelings seriously enough to argue over it.

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