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    Re: Owe The IRS? Bill Would Suspend Passport Rights For Delinquent Taxpayers

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    I did not know not paying taxes is a right. Learn something new every day.
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    Re: Owe The IRS? Bill Would Suspend Passport Rights For Delinquent Taxpayers

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    I did not know not paying taxes is a right. Learn something new every day.
    You believe in debtors prison?
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    Re: Owe The IRS? Bill Would Suspend Passport Rights For Delinquent Taxpayers

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    It is what it is.



    Let me rephrase, as I did not mean 'all politicians', I meant 'all the politicians', as in all of them that owe loads of back taxes. Heck, how many people did this administration try to appoint to positions that had back tax 'issues'?

    The original statement was tongue in cheek as well.
    Good to know.

    Guess I don't really care about the bill. It has enough loop holes, and I doubt if I would ever get myself in a position to owe 50K or more in back taxes. For those who are, its is a shame they have failed to pay the taxes due. I am not debating if the tax system if just or fair. It is what it is each year. Each should pay according to the current rules.
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    Re: Owe The IRS? Bill Would Suspend Passport Rights For Delinquent Taxpayers

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Got to love you Arbo. Based on the title I would think you work for NBC in the editing department.

    "Section 40304 of the legislation states that any individual who owes more than $50,000 to the Internal Revenue Service may be subject to “action with respect to denial, revocation, or limitation of a passport”.

    So how many regular citizens who travel owe $50,000 in back federal taxes? Someone owing that much back taxes could be a flight risk. I would hold them to within the US till they paid up.

    and wait there is more you fail to add to your "As your liberties slowly slip away... " response. There are exceptions to allow travel for those that owe +50K.
    "The bill does allow for exceptions in the event of emergency or humanitarian situations or limited return travel to the U.S., or in cases when any tax debt is currently being repaid in a “timely manner” or when collection efforts have been suspended."

    All of this taken from your provided link.
    So why do you have a proble with this bill?
    Because...because...FREEDOM!!!
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    Re: Owe The IRS? Bill Would Suspend Passport Rights For Delinquent Taxpayers

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Anything the government can do to increase compliance? I'm pretty much okay with it. If most of us only knew how many people were scoffing at the IRS as the rest of us fork over, I'm pretty sure we'd be amazed.

    Here's a little scam: Realtors aren't employees of their companies. They're independent contractors. As such, companies don't withhold income tax. And at the end of the year, they issue 1099's. Well, Realtors aren't particularly good at setting aside their taxes -- especially since they know that if they don't pay for three or four years, they'll be able to settle for 25-cents (or even less) on the dollar down the road.

    That's just not fair to the rest of us. Pay your share, damn it!! Can't travel to Europe on the USA's dime? Goody.
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    Re: Owe The IRS? Bill Would Suspend Passport Rights For Delinquent Taxpayers

    it's an unnecessary rule really, there is nowhere on the planet that you can hide from the IRS as it is.
    you would have to go to extraordinary lengths to escape them... basically providing your own private prison.

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    Re: Owe The IRS? Bill Would Suspend Passport Rights For Delinquent Taxpayers

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    You believe in debtors prison?
    Who is getting sent to prison?
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    Re: Owe The IRS? Bill Would Suspend Passport Rights For Delinquent Taxpayers

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Who is getting sent to prison?
    Can not paying your taxes land you in prison?
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    Re: Owe The IRS? Bill Would Suspend Passport Rights For Delinquent Taxpayers

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Can not paying your taxes land you in prison?
    Your source says nothing about that being in the bill.
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    Re: Owe The IRS? Bill Would Suspend Passport Rights For Delinquent Taxpayers

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Your liberty to not pay your taxes? Dude, if you can't pay your taxes, you can't afford to travel abroad. Linking the two things is not an entirely bad idea, absent some specific reason to suggest otherwise.

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