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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    I pay for mine too. If I was a freeloader they wouldn't have gone up now would they? They went from about 357 a month to 600+. A lot of companies when up quite a bit, because they are all ramping up for Ubamacare when it kicks in.
    Did I imply that you were a freeloader? So your company is charging you more money now because they might go up in two more years?

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    Ubamacare doesn't change that fact. Tell me how our government is going to force the homeless, the severely poor to purchase heathcare in this country? My premiums have already doubled since Ubamacare. If I was already paying for those who use emergency care without paying, why did my premiums double???
    Insurers are pretty much free to charge as much as they want now. Under the new HC bill they will need to spend at least 80 or 85% of your premium to pay claims and will be forced to refund money to you if they take too much. At least then you will know your money is not mostly going to fund the CEO's new summer home in the Hamptons. They can "only" keep 15 to 20% for the job of cutting the checks. Nice work if you can get it and Medicare's "overhead" is half of that but at least they will no longer be free to gouge at will. And they will save money too, no more high paid examiners who's highly skilled job is tryng to find ways for them to weasel out of paying when you get sick..
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    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Insurers are pretty much free to charge as much as they want now. Under the new HC bill they will need to spend at least 80 or 85% of your premium to pay claims and will be forced to refund money to you if they take too much. At least then you will know your money is not mostly going to fund the CEO's new summer home in the Hamptons. They can "only" keep 15 to 20% for the job of cutting the checks. Nice work if you can get it and Medicare's "overhead" is half of that but at least they will no longer be free to gouge at will. And they will save money too, no more high paid examiners who's highly skilled job is tryng to find ways for them to weasel out of paying when you get sick..
    Iirc.correctly that aspect of the law hasnt taken affect yet so they are getting while the getting us good

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    So you are better off popping out a few kids to get a tax credit? Interesting logic, considering the cost of a child is far more than any tax credit could hope to be.
    Nice strawman.

    So under obamacare those that can not afford health care will have it 'taken care of' for them. Which means somebody else is paying for them. How exactly is that any different than what we have now? Hard working people paying for slackers.
    Obamacare doesn't provide for "slackers". What it does is provide subsidies, on a sliding scale based on income, for people who are working but not earning enough to foot the enire bill for health insurance. How is it different? It provides health insurance to 30 million+ people who don't presently have it.
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    Link please.
    Sure thing... I'll even make it a Fox News link so claims of left-wing media bias can't be laid out against me.


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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Sure thing... I'll even make it a Fox News link so claims of left-wing media bias can't be laid out against me.


    Gingrich: Arrest Judges Who Refuse to Explain Rulings
    Don't forget that he also suggested that the whole Federal 9th Circuit should be dissolved because he doesn't agree with their liberal tendencies. Somehow the "genius" doesn't quite get the whole separation of powers dealie.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Don't forget that he also suggested that the whole Federal 9th Circuit should be dissolved because he doesn't agree with their liberal tendencies. Somehow the "genius" doesn't quite get the whole separation of powers dealie.
    That pretty much caps off this selective outrage thread.
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Nice strawman.
    Should I provide you a link that explains what that is?
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Should I provide you a link that explains what that is?
    Not necessary, but if history is a guide the research would do you some good.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Insurers are pretty much free to charge as much as they want now. Under the new HC bill they will need to spend at least 80 or 85% of your premium to pay claims and will be forced to refund money to you if they take too much. At least then you will know your money is not mostly going to fund the CEO's new summer home in the Hamptons. They can "only" keep 15 to 20% for the job of cutting the checks. Nice work if you can get it and Medicare's "overhead" is half of that but at least they will no longer be free to gouge at will. And they will save money too, no more high paid examiners who's highly skilled job is tryng to find ways for them to weasel out of paying when you get sick..
    If insurers are "required to spend" the money.... You can bet your life they will. The thought they will send any money back to a consumer is a pipe dream.
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