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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    No, it's not. If I get a deduction for installing solar panels, but I choose not to install solar panels. I have bought nothing. I owe nothing to the government for not installing them. If I buy a Chevy Volt and receive a tax deduction, but if I choose not to buy a car at all, I have bought nothing and I owe nothing to the government.
    And go to an emergency room without insurance and you still get treated. You have bought nothing and owe nothing and still get the benefit. That's the way it should be?

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    The argument is a stupid one.

    If they set it up so you were not forced to buy health insurance, but rather there was a tax credit if you did, then you might be on track. But they now want to force you to buy it and penalize you if you do not. That is totally outside of the realm of the point of tax credits, thus it is NOT a tax credit, it is a penalty for inaction.

    Perhaps you are missing the difference between incentives and penalties.
    Choosing to not have insurance is as much of a action as buying it. You are making the rest of us foot the bill for any health emergencies that arise.
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    what???? Maybe the government should then levy a fine for not buying smokre dectectors, or not going to college, etc... this argument you all are on is insane.
    If YOU had to pay for any damages when someone else doesnt't buy a smoke detector would you still not want to fine people for not having them?
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    If YOU had to pay for any damages when someone else doesnt't buy a smoke detector would you still not want to fine people for not having them?

    A better argument would be that many municipalities require smoke detectors, you should try that argument....
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Choosing to not have insurance is as much of a action as buying it. You are making the rest of us foot the bill for and health emergencies that arise.
    Actually they will bill you afterwards, Unless of course you have given false identification. and this applies ONLY to emergency rooms. You got long term care problems it doesn't help. You need a non emergency surgery, SOL etc. It does not compare.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The point is consistently, and blindingly, flying over your head.
    I understand after watching you for a while the standard 'go to' is the 'you do not understand'. It has nothing to do with the comprehension of others. You repetitive idea that a penalty is an incentive falls flat.

    Look up the words. Two different things.
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Choosing to not have insurance is as much of a action as buying it.
    It is called freedom.
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Right, and insurance is a product that is sold in commerce, and the price of insurance is affected by buying AND NOT BUYING. Hence the authority to require purchase, or in this case, to create tax incentive to purchase.
    Wow, really? What will you back that up with?
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    I understand after watching you for a while the standard 'go to' is the 'you do not understand'. It has nothing to do with the comprehension of others. You repetitive idea that a penalty is an incentive falls flat.

    Look up the words. Two different things.
    Well, it's just the conclusion that follows when someone repeatedly dismisses an argument with little or no reasoning. You know, the "that tupid" or "LOL" response? So if you want to be treated like you understand ... act like you understand.
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Well, it's just the conclusion that follows when someone repeatedly dismisses an argument with little or no reasoning. You know, the "that tupid" or "LOL" response? So if you want to be treated like you understand ... act like you understand.
    Laughing at a stupid concept does not mean you do not understand it. Quite the contrary.

    Now get back to repeating that incentives and penalties are the same thing. Maybe you'll fool someone into believing you.
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