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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Counting chickens

    The difference between a democrat and a republican is who owes the favor, the politican or the business

    Not at all...But as an educated guess, I would say that should HC fall in the SC, and gas prices continue to rise, along with dismal jobs reports then it would be nearly impossible for him to gain a second term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not at all...But as an educated guess, I would say that should HC fall in the SC, and gas prices continue to rise, along with dismal jobs reports then it would be nearly impossible for him to gain a second term.

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    I was taking about three SC striking down the entire law
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

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    No spin involved -- just economics 101.
    Yeah, sure.

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    The bills are read by staffers and the legislators are provided with summaries so they do in fact know what's in them.
    Could you explain to us how the staffers read the bill and put forth a summary of the bill, that either was not completely written when they passed, it, or only finished 2 days before they passed it (depending on what you believe)?

    2700+ pages read in two days and a good summary put together? Uh huh.

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    See, there's nothing at all preventing the American people from learning about the bill -- except for laziness and partisan bias.
    What ever happened to that promise of having legislation available on line like a week before it get's voted on? Or does that qualify as a lie the president told that needs to go in the 'obama lies thread'?

    Did you want Ms. Pelosi to spoon feed it to you like a little baby?
    LOL. The crazy woman that said they need to pass it to see what is in it, spoon feed what she doesn't even know? Man you are funny.
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    I was taking about three SC striking down the entire law
    OH, my bad. Well, I think on that front, chances are more than likely a 5-4 decision. Could be 6-3 then Obama would be done for sure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    OH, my bad. Well, I think on that front, chances are more than likely a 5-4 decision. Could be 6-3 then Obama would be done for sure.


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    only the mandate will get shot down if anything is. And that can easily be a positive thing for Obama since he never wanted it.
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    only the mandate will get shot down if anything is. And that can easily be a positive thing for Obama since he never wanted it.
    How does the law survive without the main way to pay for it?....If they only shoot down the mandate, which I would think the whole law has to go due to no severability clause, then repeal will be a necessity due to the staggering cost, not paid for in it.

    WASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — Contrary to what some may believe, President Barack Obama’s health care law would not automatically collapse if the Supreme Court strikes down the unpopular requirement that most Americans carry medical insurance or face a penalty.

    The overhaul could still lurch ahead without that core requirement, experts say. But it would be more like a clunky collection of parts than a coherent whole.

    That would make an already complicated law a lot harder to carry out, risking repercussions for a U.S. health care system widely seen as wasteful, unaffordable and unable to deliver consistently high quality.



    Premiums could jump for people buying coverage individually, and for small businesses. That’s because other provisions of the law require insurance companies to accept people with health problems, and limit the premiums that can be charged to older adults.

    Sooner or later, the dilemma of the nation’s 50 million uninsured would land back on the doorstep of Congress.

    Killing Health Care Plan‘s Individual Mandate Won’t Dismantle the Law | Video | TheBlaze.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How does the law survive without the main way to pay for it?....If they only shoot down the mandate, which I would think the whole law has to go due to no severability clause, then repeal will be a necessity due to the staggering cost, not paid for in it.




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    That's the argument the Obama admin is making, at least for the "must cover sick people clause"-but that's not the courts job.

    This post was made from my phone.please excuse spelling mistakes
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Hard to believe his claims that he went to a prestigious university and was allegedly taught something about constitutional law. Perhaps he should surrender his diploma for inspection, along with his birth certificate, his hospital records and his passport.
    I seem to remember the claim that he was a constitutional law professor.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by patrickbwayne View Post
    No I'm saying BOTH sides are wrong. The Supreme court will determine constitutionality, that is it's role. In both cases.
    According to Obama, it is not the role of the court if the law was passed by the Congress. Do you agree with him?

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What he was saying, IMO, is that the Court is supposed to give deference to duly passed legislation and the inquiry is more in the nature of trying to find a way to uphold it as opposed to trying to find a way to strike it down.
    The way you put it, it looks like he was trying to influence their decision.

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