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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    IF it gets struck down I would say that it would be the mark of an irresponsible Supreme Court.

    Further explication by President Obama:
    HAHA, wow. Thanks for that wonderful transcript.

    Quote Originally Posted by President Obama
    We have not seen a court overturn a law that was passed by Congress on an economic issue like health care, that I think most people would clearly consider commerce.
    Really President Obama? We have never seen that? I don't know about that....lets ask president obama.

    Quote Originally Posted by President Obama
    A law like that has not been overturned, at least since Lochner. Right? So we’re going to back to the ‘30s, pre-New Deal.
    WOAH! Will you look at that. President Obama seemed to just counter your statement that it's never happened President Obama. I guess what you really meant to say was "IT hasn't happened in a long time and now its happening ot me so I don't like it so its bad and it's obvious that its political becuase who could dare disagree with me becuase I'm always right, just like when I suggsted it never happened and then immedietely contradicted myself".

    You know, for being a Law Professor, you'd think he'd have realized that there's been NUMEROUS times in this countries history where the court has done something unprecedented for the first time because its the first time hte issue has came up in such a way before OR because the situation is different enough compared to the past times that it warrants different action. If Obama has such a hard time with "unprecedented" acts by the court perhaps he should seek to begin his argument against Brown v. The Board of Education, or perhaps Marbury v. Madison.

    I swear, every time I hear Obama spew his idealogy driven ridiculous snipes and whines I just imagine a frankenstien forum monster of DonSoutherland's writing style and ability mixed with something like Deuce or Grant's political mentality.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Perhaps Obama should recall this particular line:

    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Justice John Marshall
    "To what purpose are powers limited, and to what purpose is that limitation committed to writing, if these limits may, at any time, be passed by those intended to be restrained?"
    And also that the Constitution places itself before the laws of the United States.

    Unprecedented or not, and it's clearly not by Obama's own words, if the Court feels that the law is unconstiuttional and that its abilities are beyond the scope of hte limited powers set forth by the document then they have taken an oath to strike it down regardless of whether or not it hasn't happened in 80 years or if the President is immedietely attempting to suggest that there's political motives and actions at play here. It is the duty and responsability of the Supreme Court to uphold the Constitution, not to make sure that Congress gets its way.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You're right, he only told them if they overturn the law it would amount to judicial activism.
    Something which might never have occurred to this Constitutional scholar was that "unprecedented" "judicial activism" has occurred over 1,300 times in the history of the Republic.

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_l...constitutional

    All he had to do was google.
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    HAHA, wow. Thanks for that wonderful transcript.



    Really President Obama? We have never seen that? I don't know about that....lets ask president obama.



    WOAH! Will you look at that. President Obama seemed to just counter your statement that it's never happened President Obama. I guess what you really meant to say was "IT hasn't happened in a long time and now its happening ot me so I don't like it so its bad and it's obvious that its political becuase who could dare disagree with me becuase I'm always right, just like when I suggsted it never happened and then immedietely contradicted myself".

    You know, for being a Law Professor, you'd think he'd have realized that there's been NUMEROUS times in this countries history where the court has done something unprecedented for the first time because its the first time hte issue has came up in such a way before OR because the situation is different enough compared to the past times that it warrants different action. If Obama has such a hard time with "unprecedented" acts by the court perhaps he should seek to begin his argument against Brown v. The Board of Education, or perhaps Marbury v. Madison.

    I swear, every time I hear Obama spew his idealogy driven ridiculous snipes and whines I just imagine a frankenstien forum monster of DonSoutherland's writing style and ability mixed with something like Deuce or Grant's political mentality.
    Seriously? You think it's a valid debate tactic to analyze each sentence of an off-the-cuff statement in isolation? Good Lord.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Someone needs to tell Obama to shut up. He's under a lot of pressure and stress, and it's beginning to show. Sad to watch.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Seriously? You think it's a valid debate tactic to analyze each sentence of an off-the-cuff statement in isolation? Good Lord.
    It was a prepared statement by the POTUS on a pending SCOTUS decision ...... "Off the cuff" my ass. Further, the 5th Circuit has ordered an explanation by the DOJ as to the contempt shown by the Executive:

    Appeals court fires back at Obama's comments on health care case - Crossroads - CBS News

    Dear Leader looks like a Constitutional idiot.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    Someone needs to tell Obama to shut up. He's under a lot of pressure and stress, and it's beginning to show. Sad to watch.

    Yeah, he should say intelligent things like "Babies from rape are a gift from God" like Santorum.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    It was a prepared statement by the POTUS on a pending SCOTUS decision ......
    The statement Zyphlin referenced was made by Obama in response to a reporter's question after his prepared remarks about the Republican's budget.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    HAHA, wow. Thanks for that wonderful transcript.



    Really President Obama? We have never seen that? I don't know about that....lets ask president obama.



    WOAH! Will you look at that. President Obama seemed to just counter your statement that it's never happened President Obama. I guess what you really meant to say was "IT hasn't happened in a long time and now its happening ot me so I don't like it so its bad and it's obvious that its political becuase who could dare disagree with me becuase I'm always right, just like when I suggsted it never happened and then immedietely contradicted myself".

    You know, for being a Law Professor, you'd think he'd have realized that there's been NUMEROUS times in this countries history where the court has done something unprecedented for the first time because its the first time hte issue has came up in such a way before OR because the situation is different enough compared to the past times that it warrants different action. If Obama has such a hard time with "unprecedented" acts by the court perhaps he should seek to begin his argument against Brown v. The Board of Education, or perhaps Marbury v. Madison.

    I swear, every time I hear Obama spew his idealogy driven ridiculous snipes and whines I just imagine a frankenstien forum monster of DonSoutherland's writing style and ability mixed with something like Deuce or Grant's political mentality.
    I disagree that he doesn't know all this. He knows it all too well. This man is a malcontent, even after he swore an oath to preserve the Constitution. He looks at what FDR accomplished with a stacked court, and he wants to do the same thing.
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    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The statement Zyphlin referenced was made by Obama in response to a reporter's question after his prepared remarks about the Republican's budget.
    The "legal scholar and Constitutional Law professor" ,puke> decides to make a statement about SCOTUS and Obamacare, and gets asked a question, and its now "off the cuff" ............ that's BS only a mother could love.

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