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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by patrickbwayne View Post
    And the GOP thinks the rule of law shouldn't apply to something they don't like... opposite sides of the same coin. Hypocrisy of both sides IS the issue.
    Maybe to you. Not to me. I don't recall any President in my lifetime dressing down SCOTUS in a SOTU address. Obama said that it was "unpresedented" for SCOTUS to strike down a Congressionally passed law. As if they only strike down state laws. SCOTUS has struck down over 150 Congressionally passed laws in its history. And thousands of state laws, btw.

    We got a new coin with this one. And he's full of ****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickbwayne View Post
    And the GOP thinks the rule of law shouldn't apply to something they don't like... opposite sides of the same coin. Hypocrisy of both sides IS the issue.
    The GOP thinks the rule of law should be changed on that issue to regard ZEFs as citizens. Personally I disagree with them.

    But that's not what we're talking about. SCOTUS isn't hearing Roe v. Wade right now, so let's stick to the issue. This isn't about abortion or hypocrisy. It's about how the president thinks SCOTUS should arrive at its judgments.

    In this case he's wagging his arrogant finger at the court and warning them NOT to check and balance the other branches of government. He should crash and burn for this.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Forcing me to buy something is unconstitutional. period.....


    I wonder, given Obama's thinking, how he feels about the prop 187 decision.
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by patrickbwayne View Post
    No I'm saying BOTH sides are wrong. The Supreme court will determine constitutionality, that is it's role. In both cases.
    But it still has nothing to do with constitutionality, so no, it's NOT "the issue."
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    The GOP thinks the rule of law should be changed on that issue to regard ZEFs as citizens. Personally I disagree with them.

    But that's not what we're talking about. SCOTUS isn't hearing Roe v. Wade right now, so let's stick to the issue. This isn't about abortion or hypocrisy. It's about how the president thinks SCOTUS should arrive at its judgments.

    In this case he's wagging his arrogant finger at the court and warning them NOT to check and balance the other branches of government. He should crash and burn for this.

    1973 Pres Regan calling for overturn of Roe v Wade A president admonishing the Supreme Court about a decision isn't new.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by patrickbwayne View Post
    1973 Pres Regan calling for overturn of Roe v Wade A president admonishing the Supreme Court about a decision isn't new.
    Reagan was commenting 10 years after. Decision long ago made. Obama is commenting while the Justices debate. While they decide. That's bull****.

    And your comparison fails, btw.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Reagan was commenting 10 years after. Decision long ago made. Obama is commenting while the Justices debate. While they decide. That's bull****.

    And your comparison fails, btw.
    And Obama did so -- attempting to influence the outcome -- by making untrue statements. Reagan said nothing untrue in that blurb.
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    It only fails from a one side view. On the outside looking at both it really is the same. Watching the Dems and GOP anymore is like watching 3 year olds in the back seat of the car.... "He's touching me!!!!" "No I'm not"

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by patrickbwayne View Post
    It only fails from a one side view. On the outside looking at both it really is the same. Watching the Dems and GOP anymore is like watching 3 year olds in the back seat of the car.... "He's touching me!!!!" "No I'm not"
    No, it fails because they're not like situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickbwayne View Post
    1973 Pres Regan calling for overturn of Roe v Wade A president admonishing the Supreme Court about a decision isn't new.
    No one's saying it's new that a POTUS would disagree with the SCOTUS. What matters is on what grounds. Obama's argument is that it should pass because Congress passed it. I can't watch your video right now, so, what was Reagan's rationale? If it was anywhere near as ignorant of the Constition as Obama's being, I'll condemn him too.

    Except that he's dead, RvW was 39 years ago and not the topic of this thread, whereas PPACA and Obama are current, and they are the topic of the thread.
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