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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You cannot find Obama's Occidental or Columbia grades and other records with a search warrant. I suspect they are a more closely guarded secret than the identity of New York Mob Rat Henry Hill
    Just as we won't find his working drafts of "Dreams of My Father" either.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    As opposed to what? Imaginary commerce clause case law?
    What an idiotic response. He didn't mention "case law" of any kind, at all, period, and certainly nothing so specific as "commerce clause case law." He said it (overturning a law passed by a "strong majority") was unprecedented entirely.

    Weak sauce is all you pour. I hope you have him on retainer.
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    We know he graduated at the top of his class because he was magna cum laude. Contrary to wingnut wisdom, he did write an article for the Law Review. Exclusive: Obama's lost law review article - Ben Smith and Jeffrey Ressner - POLITICO.com
    One article and it's on "Fetal Rights. Outstanding. What were Obama's views on partial birth abortion while an Illinois State Senator?

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    I love how the conservatives of this board automatically assume Obama doesn't care about the constitutionality of the law simply because he mentioned the law's popularity. It has powered the constitutionality test already and it went be judged inn its constitutional merits, it well be judged on it's wisdom and whether or not the law, due to the telling, will give too much power to the federal government.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What an idiotic response. He didn't mention "case law" of any kind, at all, period, and certainly nothing so specific as "commerce clause case law." He said it (overturning a law passed by a "strong majority") was unprecedented entirely.

    Weak sauce is all you pour. I hope you have him on retainer.
    Okay, I thought he was talking about the mandate case that was decided under the commerce clause. What were you talking about?
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    That makes no sense. What does SCOTUS' role have to do with right wing rhetoric?

    What if the POTUS aimed to veto a
    Bill congress passed because it was thought to be unconstitutional, and a Senator warned him that he better not veto it, because Congress passed it. I mean WTF? Wouldn't that show incredible ignorance to our structure of government?

    The only partisan rhetoric here is in Obama's his feigned ignorance.
    He's a Constitutional scholar and like many of them he doesn't believe the bill is unconstitutional. He has a right to his opinions.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    He's a Constitutional scholar and like many of them he doesn't believe the bill is unconstitutional. He has a right to his opinions.
    Or maybe he does not respect the Constitution as others do ? There is significant accumulating evidence for this. If he is a closet Marxist, then the scumbag would just as soon wipe his ass with the Constitution.

    Frankly, he's no Constitutional Scholar. He never argued it in any court. He was listed as a "senior lecturer" at the University of Chicago, often on leave. He was never a professor anywhere. And as I said, he's no scholar.

    But he was a Community Organizer !!

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    As I mentioned above, I think Obama chose his words poorly, and I would say that if you take them literally then he was mistaken.
    Well of course we have to take his words literally. He's the POTUS and purported to be an expert in constitutional law. Why wouldn't he be expected to be taken seriously in discussions of this sort? In fact this is the only area where he's had any real world experience, and he flubbed it! I do not understand why you, and millions of others, cannot see that the emperor has no clothes.

    He explained today: "The point I was making is that the Supreme Court is the final say on our Constitution and our laws and all of us have to respect it. But it's precisely because of that extraordinary power that the court has traditionally exercised significant restraint and deference to our duly-elected legislature, our Congress."
    He explained again and still has it wrong!! This is incredible! The Supremes have "deference" only to the Constitution, not to Congress. Stop defending this clown. Rev. Wright referred to him as just another politician, and he had him pegged.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The point may have been to make it easier for minorities to win the office, but that doesn't mean that he was elected for that reason. In fact, if you research it you will find that everyone who was on the review and who has been interviewed says he was elected based on merit.
    No, that is not true. They have been quite open that his race played an important role because they thought at the time that it was a good thing. Had it been based on grades alone he would not have qualified.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Or maybe he does not respect the Constitution as others do ? There is significant accumulating evidence for this. If he is a closet Marxist, then the scumbag would just as soon wipe his ass with the Constitution.

    Frankly, he's no Constitutional Scholar. He never argued it in any court. He was listed as a "senior lecturer" at the University of Chicago, often on leave. He was never a professor anywhere. And as I said, he's no scholar.

    But he was a Community Organizer !!
    Would that be that war torn 'community' in Chicago we have been reading so much about lately?

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