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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So you share BHO's opinion that Obamacare passed with a "strong majority" and that overturning a law passed by Congress would be unprecedented?

    Or do believe he was incorrect in both those assertions?
    As I mentioned above, I think Obama chose his words poorly, and I would say that if you take them literally then he was mistaken. But I think what he meant was that finding the law unconstitutional ... under existing commerce clause case law ... would be unprecedented.

    He explained today: "The point I was making is that the Supreme Court is the final say on our Constitution and our laws and all of us have to respect it. But it's precisely because of that extraordinary power that the court has traditionally exercised significant restraint and deference to our duly-elected legislature, our Congress."
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    He's an assclown who is like FDR. Intimidate the court and bully them into pissing on the constitution.

    Its history repeating itself.
    I guess I missed the Obama court packing legislation....
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    Yes, Obama was elected Harvard Law Review President because he was Black. He was unqualified then and he is unqualified for the Presidency now.
    under the system that he was chosen, he was qualified. He was fairly elected president by those qualified to vote. He also fairly earned his way on to the law review due to a combination of his grades and his writing competition. Where I have problems is that he would not have been accepted into Harvard but for his race.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I guess I missed the Obama court packing legislation....
    You seem to be limited in your thinking that "intimidation" can only mean court packing

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    He's an assclown who is like FDR. Intimidate the court and bully them into pissing on the constitution.
    He does tend to bully people who make him look bad. Reporters, Jan Brewer, what have you.
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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    So you automatically assume that he was elected because he was black, and not because the other members of the law review thought he was the best qualified? Talk about your race cards!

    btw, if the guy who was president after him was white, does it mean he was just elected because he was white?
    "Race card ... blah ... blah ... blah". It is a very safe assumption that his being black weighed heavily in his being selected. Happened again too, didn't it

    Maybe we are finally learning what a disaster affirmative action is, putting folks into positions where they are in way over their heads.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    He does tend to bully people who make him look bad. Reporters, Jan Brewer, what have you.

    Its a common trait of cowards or those who are backing an indefensible position

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    under the system that he was chosen, he was qualified. He was fairly elected president by those qualified to vote. He also fairly earned his way on to the law review due to a combination of his grades and his writing competition. Where I have problems is that he would not have been accepted into Harvard but for his race.
    Grades were not considered and his writing was not entirely his own and is subpar. Obama was used to make history just like he was used to become the first Black President.

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You should read what they said before you comment.

    First Black Elected to Head Harvard's Law Review - Page 2 - New York Times


    It was the HLR who were playing the race card.
    The point may have been to make it easier for minorities to win the office, but that doesn't mean that he was elected for that reason. In fact, if you research it you will find that everyone who was on the review and who has been interviewed says he was elected based on merit.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Obama’s ‘Unprecedented’ Remarks: Is the President Running Against the Supreme Cou

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    Grades were not considered and his writing was not entirely his own.
    I haven't heard that-one of my good friends-now a solicitor in London for that famous insurance company of Lloyd's was a classmate of Obama's and attended his wedding. He noted it was a combination of grades (you had to have a certain GPA to even compete) and a writing competition. I am unaware that someone else wrote his competition essay or memorandum for him or that someone took tests for him. He did graduate in the top 20% of his class. I note the other chair in my last federal jury trial is a Harvard Magna as is my appellate chief in my office and both of them confirmed what I was told

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