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    Re: 4 Indiana Dems charged with election fraud in 2008

    How many votes in this case were fraudulently cast?
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    Re: 4 Indiana Dems charged with election fraud in 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    How many votes in this case were fraudulently cast?
    From what I gather, there WERE no votes cast in this case - these fools were forging signatures on a primary ballot.

    Edit: And it wouldn't matter in any case:


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    Prosecutors in South Bend, Ind., filed charges Monday against four St. Joseph County Democratic officials and deputies as part of a multiple-felony case involving the alleged forging of Democratic presidential primary petitions in the 2008 election, which put then-candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on the Indiana ballot.

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    Indiana State Police investigators identified a total of 22 petitions that appeared to be faked, yet sailed through the Voter Registration Board as legitimate documents. The signature of the board's Republican supervisor, Linda Silcott, which is required for legal certification, appeared to be rubber stamped on the documents. She told investigators that she did not remember signing or authorizing her rubber stamp to be used.

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    Under state law, presidential candidates need to qualify with 500 signatures from each of Indiana's nine congressional districts. Indiana elections officials say that in St. Joseph County, which is the 2nd Congressional District, the Obama campaign qualified with 534 signatures; Clinton's camp had 704.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz1r0uAJfjf
    So in the end, there were not enough fraudulent signatures to make a difference.
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    Re: 4 Indiana Dems charged with election fraud in 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    From what I gather, there WERE no votes cast in this case - these fools were forging signatures on a primary ballot.
    Correct, and as far as forged signatures, they speculate 150, and have 20 that they are using to build the case.
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    Re: 4 Indiana Dems charged with election fraud in 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Correct, and as far as forged signatures, they speculate 150, and have 20 that they are using to build the case.
    Well, if it was 35 or more for Obama specifically, then technically he shouldn't have been on the primary ballot in Indiana, if I'm reading this right - but that's a REALLY moot point at this...point.
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    Re: 4 Indiana Dems charged with election fraud in 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    All of them.
    Be specific. List them. The more problematic ones would work.

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    Re: 4 Indiana Dems charged with election fraud in 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Well, if it was 35 or more for Obama specifically, then technically he shouldn't have been on the primary ballot in Indiana, if I'm reading this right - but that's a REALLY moot point at this...point.
    Honestly, it is a moot point because it took them over 4 years to get to this.
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    Re: 4 Indiana Dems charged with election fraud in 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I thought this was interesting since we just argued on this board recently about voter ID cards and election fraud.



    4?

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    Seriously?

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    Re: 4 Indiana Dems charged with election fraud in 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    And you think that voter ID laws would have prevented this somehow?

    How would that work?
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    Re: 4 Indiana Dems charged with election fraud in 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Honestly, it is a moot point because it took them over 4 years to get to this.
    Which was my original point - if it takes 3-4 years to even charge someone, fanatical partisans are likely to A: think it's worth it, and B: be willing to take the hit later if it helps the figurehead of their chosen ideology at the time.

    I mean, let's face it, in 4 years the candidate any such actions might affect has a goodly portion of their term behind them anyways...Or in the case of representatives, may already have been voted out/re-elected.
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    Re: 4 Indiana Dems charged with election fraud in 2008

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's not a red herring as I did not identify Obama.... and you're avoiding answering. Use Bush if that makes you feel better or best yet, use a no-name President, or Mayer, or Governor.....

    How will things take care of themselves when someone was elected fraudulently? I take it you mean, you'd do nothing.
    With all due respect, in respect to this thread, it is a bull**** question, which is why I am not going go answer it.
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