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4 Indiana Dems charged with election fraud in 2008

How many votes in this case were fraudulently cast?
 
OpportunityCost said:
There is a good deal of evidence:


Looks fairly solid as far as evidence goes. Comes down the handwriting analysis and Burkette's affadavits. Im betting there is a plea bargain in there for him somewhere. Good for law enforcement in that district cant be easy even charging political leaders in your own county or district.
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There are other factors as to whom are (is) the guilty one(s). 4 were charged, but does that mean ALL 4 are guilty? Not necessarily and that's what I'm saying, let the court sort it out and then lock up the guilty.
 
It doesn't really matter to the faithful dweebs. They're loyal to their party, not to the process that ensures our liberty and freedom. Don't all of you people who demand integrity and honesty have something better to do? :2razz:
 
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danarhea said:
I agree. The evidence is there. Charge them, and if convicted, lock them up and throw away the key.
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And if the fraud perpetrated elected someone who would not have won otherwise? What do you do with them....?
 
Ockham said:
And if the fraud perpetrated elected someone who would not have won otherwise? What do you do with them....?
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That is a red herring. Show me where Obama won Indiana because of voter fraud. Rather than focusing on the ridiculous, Republicans should run better candidates. Then things would take care of themselves.
 
Ockham said:
And if the fraud perpetrated elected someone who would not have won otherwise? What do you do with them....?
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And you have the proof that it did? What if games are fun, but ultimately, lead nowhere.
 
Neal N. Bloeme said:
It doesn't really matter to the faithful dweebs. They're loyal to their party, not to the process that ensures our liberty and freedom.
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Why are you talking about Republicans?
 
danarhea said:
While I am watching the cat fight that is playing out, let me interject my own opinion here.

1) In any state that consists of millions of people, there are going to be instances of voter fraud. It happens on both sides.

2) Actual voter fraud is extremely rare.

3) If someone commits voter fraud, then they should go to jail.

4) How many people have been charged with voter fraud? In the state of indiana, it looks like 4, out of a population of millions.

5) Rather than worry about voter fraud, which is an issue that has been grossly overdone, I would worry about things like Enron and other schemes in which people are defrauded of their life savings. These are orders of magnitude more important than the occasional asshole that commits voter fraud.

6) Finally, show me proof that an election outcome was changed because of voter fraud. I have all year to wait. All I want to see is your proof.
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Thanks for a well reasoned response. I could not agree more.
 
danarhea said:
While I am watching the cat fight that is playing out, let me interject my own opinion here.

1) In any state that consists of millions of people, there are going to be instances of voter fraud. It happens on both sides.

2) Actual voter fraud is extremely rare.

3) If someone commits voter fraud, then they should go to jail.

4) How many people have been charged with voter fraud? In the state of indiana, it looks like 4, out of a population of millions.

5) Rather than worry about voter fraud, which is an issue that has been grossly overdone, I would worry about things like Enron and other schemes in which people are defrauded of their life savings. These are orders of magnitude more important than the occasional asshole that commits voter fraud.

6) Finally, show me proof that an election outcome was changed because of voter fraud. I have all year to wait. All I want to see is your proof.
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The thing that makes this instance intersting is the following (from the article):
Under state law, presidential candidates need to qualify with 500 signatures from each of Indiana's nine congressional districts. Indiana elections officials say that in St. Joseph County, which is the 2nd Congressional District, the Obama campaign qualified with 534 signatures; Clinton's camp had 704.
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That is a narrow margin.
 
Fascinating to watch the left excuse cheating.
 
Neal N. Bloeme said:
Fascinating to watch the left excuse cheating.
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I haven't seen anyone excuse, maybe you would like to point out who. What I have seen is people waiting for a verdict and wanting the guilty locked up.

Care to show us different?
 
Blue_State said:
You can't recognize a joke with your partisan eyes?
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Funny, you even thanked another hpyer partisan response. Was that just a joke to? Puhlease, noone buys what you are saying.
 
TheNextEra said:
I haven't seen anyone excuse, maybe you would like to point out who. What I have seen is people waiting for a verdict and wanting the guilty locked up.

Care to show us different?
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Do you support ACORN? Yes or no.
 
TheNextEra said:
Funny, you even thanked another hpyer partisan response. Was that just a joke to? Puhlease, noone buys what you are saying.
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You don't see the comedy in what you quoted me on? That is a you problem, not a me problem.
 
TheNextEra said:
Funny, you even thanked another hpyer partisan response. Was that just a joke to? Puhlease, noone buys what you are saying.
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Here you go again with the hyper partisan stuff. Do you read your posts? Do you have any idea of the number of posts you make attacking conservatives?
 
danarhea said:
That is a red herring. Show me where Obama won Indiana because of voter fraud. Rather than focusing on the ridiculous, Republicans should run better candidates. Then things would take care of themselves.
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It's not a red herring as I did not identify Obama.... and you're avoiding answering. Use Bush if that makes you feel better or best yet, use a no-name President, or Mayer, or Governor.....

How will things take care of themselves when someone was elected fraudulently? I take it you mean, you'd do nothing.
 
TheNextEra said:
And you have the proof that it did? What if games are fun, but ultimately, lead nowhere.
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In the hypothetical... yes, there is proof that it did. Do nothing? or is it a do over election?
 
TheNextEra said:
No, next question?
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Is that because ACORN no longer exists as an entity or is it because you did not and now still do not agree with their methods/moral actions?
 
Ockham said:
Is that because ACORN no longer exists as an entity or is it because you did not and now still do not agree with their methods/moral actions?
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Which methods?
 
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