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    Re: Fear rules the right wing SCOTUS

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    Never said she was. 5-4 split. 5 conservatives. Of course you knew that and insist on trolling I suppose.
    You started this trolling thread.
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    Re: Fear rules the right wing SCOTUS

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    just curious-do you believe people buying firearms should have to fill out a form 4473 and provide ID and submit to a background check?
    Yep. I think that's fair.

    I'm also understanding the argument that incarceration deserves inspection. It makes sense. I'm just peeved that you can be falsely accused over a measley freegin' fine that was already paid, arrested and strip-searched all on a trumped up charge. Infuriates me.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Fear rules the right wing SCOTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Yep. I think that's fair.

    I'm also understanding the argument that incarceration deserves inspection. It makes sense. I'm just peeved that you can be falsely accused over a freegin' fine, arrested and strip-searched all on a trumped up charge. Infuriates me.
    42 USC sec. 1983

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    Re: Fear rules the right wing SCOTUS

    I agree with the ruling too.


    And once a felon gets to the big house, as far as I'm concerned, they have no rights beyond cruel and unusual punishment and the SCOTUS has no longer the obligation to be concerned for them at all. Just my two-cents.

    I hate convicts. Screw 'em.

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    Re: Fear rules the right wing SCOTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I agree with the ruling too.


    And once a felon gets to the big house, as far as I'm concerned, they have no rights beyond cruel and unusual punishment and the SCOTUS has no longer the obligation to be concerned for them at all. Just my two-cents.

    I hate convicts. Screw 'em.
    If you took a better look at our system, hating them isn't exactly the cure to stopping them. I'd rather focus on not hating them because then you don't give a **** about their treatment and once that happens and everyone turns a blind eye to the penal system you create what considered a university for felons. A place that takes in criminals and puts out people more educated on how to be a criminal. Compassion is a strength. Not a weakness. And I know that saying that is repulsive to say in our machismo mindset but those countries that grasp it have a lower recidivism rate therefore less criminal activity in their society. That should be the goal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Fear rules the right wing SCOTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    42 USC sec. 1983
    Not sure if a 2nd amendment discussion is for this thread but I will say that I'm kind of a Jeffersonian on the topic. Not exactly but close.
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    Re: Fear rules the right wing SCOTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Not sure if a 2nd amendment discussion is for this thread but I will say that I'm kind of a Jeffersonian on the topic. Not exactly but close.
    42 USC 1983 is about suing for deprivation of constitutional rights by state actors acting under colour of state law

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    Re: Fear rules the right wing SCOTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    If you took a better look at our system, hating them isn't exactly the cure to stopping them. I'd rather focus on not hating them because then you don't give a **** about their treatment and once that happens and everyone turns a blind eye to the penal system you create what considered a university for felons. A place that takes in criminals and puts out people more educated on how to be a criminal. Compassion is a strength. Not a weakness. And I know that saying that is repulsive to say in our machismo mindset but those countries that grasp it have a lower recidivism rate therefore less criminal activity in their society. That should be the goal.
    If you took a better look at our system, hating them isn't exactly the cure to stopping them.

    Oh, I have the cure to stopping them. But the best they will let me do is hate them.

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    Re: Fear rules the right wing SCOTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    42 USC 1983 is about suing for deprivation of constitutional rights by state actors acting under colour of state law
    Well you segued into it with a 2nd amendment lead in then I looked it up:


    Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.


    Kind of written in legaleze greek. From what I'm getting out of it is that you are saying that the guy has the right to sue due to the injury of a wrongful incarceration?
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    Re: Fear rules the right wing SCOTUS

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Which is exactly what this ruling is about.



    I see, all "accused" right or wrong are subject to whatever perversions the authority throws at them. You keep putting your faith in authority. I'll keep my faith with the people.
    Unless they knew otherwise. You can't blame the guards for not knowing otherwise. The court only decided that for this reason, the guards acted within their authority.

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